SwordHero1 wrote:PHurricane wrote:I wasn't expecting the Kiva cameos. I knew that the actors had a cameo, but I wasn't expecting them to definitively state that they were the Arms Monsters. I'm not sure I want to try to puzzle out what universe they're from.
Well seeing as Den-O and Kiva are the same world as evidenced in Climax Deka...
takenoko wrote:>I'm still convinced this is AU Den-O >.>
Based on what? There's no evidence that
Based on their world fading as shown the... last or second to last episode of Decade I believe. Den-O world fades away in the photo album just like the other AUs.
It's just that AU Den-O World is pretty much a near exact copy of the original Den-O world.
I liked how Goldra and Silvra are based off of Ichigo+Nigo, and V3.
Agreed. Climax Deka is also AU. Based on what? I shall explain as best I can on how I see it...
As far as the Den-O movies go, Ore Tanjou is obviously OU as it was included as part of the series. Saraba was OU as it continued exactly where the series ended essentially, with no mention of the Fangire or the gang working as a detective agency to solve crimes. We get the Imagin coming back to Ryotaro's time as Owner said there was a disturbance in time. They then claim to want to "pay Ryotaro a visit as it's been awhile," where if Climax Deka had been OU, they appeared to continue working together to keep solving odd mysteries, and I'm fairly certain that they would have been around for Kiva if their universes coexisted since I'm certain Owner would be like "There's this magical door through time that the Fangire have, and someone just stepped through it. THIS CANNOT HAPPEN! GET RYOTARO, WE'RE GOING NAGO HUNTING!"
Also, continuity wise, if you notice, it's the original Denliner, with NEW Denliner interior. Now I'm sure perhaps they might decide to change the interior now and then, or heck maybe that's the middle point of updating the Denliner and NEW Denliner is the end product. But I honestly feel it makes more sense for it to be AU. It's just incredibly close to the OU. It's not like this hasn't happened before, with an AU movie being incredibly close to the OU series.
It's also entirely possible that it's not an alternate universe, but a split time line, kinda like what happened in Back To The Future, but it still doesn't explain the presence of Kiva characters appearing in Den-O universe. Unless you're willing to admit that Den-O and Kiva exist in the same universe, this is an alternate universe. And yes one could say "it's just a cameo appearence," but again, you have Climax Deka to link it to.
And then again on top of that, the storyline of Decade pretty much mandates that all the worlds he visited were not the "proper universes" and that he was supposed to kill off the false/alternate worlds' Riders. And then that leaves for the real Den-O to show up with the other Riders at the finale of Decade to kill of Tsukasa for not doing his job.
