KaGeki & DoRinki
KaGeki & DoRinki
Anyone feels weird or dissatisfied that these ultimate forms or levels of power were only made major in some part of the series, then they were like forgotten.
The mental state required for them are perfect for ideology of both side:
KaGeki manifests when one selflessly intend to protect others
DoRinki is generated when one become completely in range and desires to destroy
But there is one other thing them both require in common. One must be at their limits.
Remember when the master triangle Kenseis start training Gekirangers? From what they said it would seem either one can only generate Kageki when they supress their limit, or generate Kageki would mean one's limit has been suppressed, that's how one must work on and challenge on their weakness before they can obtain Kageki. DoRinKi seems to be the same, as Rio as become very strong then, possibly his original natural limit at that point. Then the ultimate state of mentality can bring they to the level above their limit, that when we have Kageki and DoRinki
It would seem they took the idea of Kageki and DoRinki from Sayians achieving Super Sayian state from Dragon Ball Z series.
The basis of becoming a Super Sayian is when a reach the natural limit, they can transcend to the level above when expreiencing rage. It would seem the sayian needs to be pure at heart of either good or evil to achieve the transformation.
So it's like they took the idea of Super Sayian and split it to two for Kageki and DoRinki.
In Dragon Ball series, the Sayian characters could go beyond after they reached Super Sayian.
The writers of Gekirangers should have allowed the character to developed higher form of ki beyond Kageki and DoRinki, showing they kept on developing.
Which is one major part that makes this series so worth watching, character growing stronger and stronger as story went on.
Jan once did something they could use but they didn't(I'll discuss about this is a separate topic)
One thing they definitely done better is tying "beast hearts" to Kageki and DoRinki, making they look more relevant to JyuKen
Anybody think there are other things they could have done more about KaGeki and DoRinki?
The mental state required for them are perfect for ideology of both side:
KaGeki manifests when one selflessly intend to protect others
DoRinki is generated when one become completely in range and desires to destroy
But there is one other thing them both require in common. One must be at their limits.
Remember when the master triangle Kenseis start training Gekirangers? From what they said it would seem either one can only generate Kageki when they supress their limit, or generate Kageki would mean one's limit has been suppressed, that's how one must work on and challenge on their weakness before they can obtain Kageki. DoRinKi seems to be the same, as Rio as become very strong then, possibly his original natural limit at that point. Then the ultimate state of mentality can bring they to the level above their limit, that when we have Kageki and DoRinki
It would seem they took the idea of Kageki and DoRinki from Sayians achieving Super Sayian state from Dragon Ball Z series.
The basis of becoming a Super Sayian is when a reach the natural limit, they can transcend to the level above when expreiencing rage. It would seem the sayian needs to be pure at heart of either good or evil to achieve the transformation.
So it's like they took the idea of Super Sayian and split it to two for Kageki and DoRinki.
In Dragon Ball series, the Sayian characters could go beyond after they reached Super Sayian.
The writers of Gekirangers should have allowed the character to developed higher form of ki beyond Kageki and DoRinki, showing they kept on developing.
Which is one major part that makes this series so worth watching, character growing stronger and stronger as story went on.
Jan once did something they could use but they didn't(I'll discuss about this is a separate topic)
One thing they definitely done better is tying "beast hearts" to Kageki and DoRinki, making they look more relevant to JyuKen
Anybody think there are other things they could have done more about KaGeki and DoRinki?
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I figured that this would be a problem considering how early on KaGeki was introduced. But then again, KaGeki kept growing, with Jan and Retsu doing KaGeki Kensan.
Genki trumped DoRinki, so DoRinki wasn't the ultimate power anyway
Genki trumped DoRinki, so DoRinki wasn't the ultimate power anyway
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Nope. But apparently the step below that, Rinki was. They used Rinki to seal Long after all.
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I'm not entirely sure they did. Isn't Rinki made of human suffering and screams? Doesn't seem like the kind of thing for good guys to use XD
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I know. That's what has me so puzzeled about it, but that's what they said. The 3 Kenma taught the ultimate Ringi to the Gekirangers in order to defeat Long.
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How about the screams and suffering of the villans when Ringi is used on them?
Kinda like Long when he finally got sealed.
Kinda like Long when he finally got sealed.
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Thats pretty much what I was thinking too, because I was wondering how they were gonna let Mele and Rio use there Ringi after episode 47. Then I watched 48 and saw the answer to the whole "Whats going to happen to there power" question.Warrior of Zarona wrote:How about the screams and suffering of the villans when Ringi is used on them?
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takenoko wrote:I'm not entirely sure they did. Isn't Rinki made of human suffering and screams? Doesn't seem like the kind of thing for good guys to use XD
How bout considering the sealing as a Rinki technique, but used with a different power? Sort of the Gekiranger learning of its Geki equivalent while at the RinJyuDen. The ball was gold with the Geki seal but gray with the Rinki seal, if I remember it right.Saejima Kouga wrote:I know. That's what has me so puzzeled about it, but that's what they said. The 3 Kenma taught the ultimate Ringi to the Gekirangers in order to defeat Long.
I guess it's the other way around. Rinki can be used when there are screams and sufferings. With Long, it was the sealing "wave" first before he screamed, so using Rinki wouldn't have been possible on that. That's just my opinion though.Warrior of Zarona wrote:How about the screams and suffering of the villans when Ringi is used on them? Kinda like Long when he finally got sealed.
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It makes sense that the sealing technique is the ultimate Rinki since being locked away like that is the ultimate suffering.
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You and the person above my post here both have good points. I think I'm inclined to agree.Warrior of Zarona wrote:How about the screams and suffering of the villans when Ringi is used on them?
Kinda like Long when he finally got sealed.
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This is too difficult for me to understand....
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I think they used the Rinki Rio gave them, rather than generating their own.
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But he used up all his Rinki to blow himself upNinja Clown wrote:I think they used the Rinki Rio gave them, rather than generating their own.
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But didn't Rio give the core GekiRangers Rinki before he did the suicide-GekiWaza?takenoko wrote:But he used up all his Rinki to blow himself upNinja Clown wrote:I think they used the Rinki Rio gave them, rather than generating their own.
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The technique they used to seal him wasnt RinJyuken or GekiJyuken it was straight up Jyuken. Rio wanted to end RinJyuken by uniting the two. he gave them RinGi so that they could use it with their Geki to create a technique that would seal Long away. JyuKen no Ogi, DouKokuGan.
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