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Kamen Rider Gary Stu!

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I love Decade, seriously I do. Going through the past decade of Kamen Riders using semi-AUs and reliving those old series with new twists is a brilliant idea. It's like a great big Super Sentai Vs thing with Kamen Rider, it's brilliant!

But... does anyone else get the 'Gary Stu/Mary Sue' vibe when it comes to Tsukasa?

Even if its the theme of nthe show... I honestly can;t help but get the feeling that Decade is one big Crossover Fanfiction as Tsukasa seems to be the 'perfect main character'. Anyone who has written fanfiction, or even read them, will know what I'm talking about.

Currently searching for a Mary Sue drinking game I ran across that was perfect for proving my point... course, I also used it mto prove Sasuke from Naruto was a Mary Sue in his own right, so that might not be saying much.

Anywho, the search continues!
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Not really. Tsukasa's far from perfect. Sure, he has the latent ability of 10 people, but they balance it with arrogance and having him rely on Yuusuke to be his conscience
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Not to mention the fact that Natsumi's super thumb of doom can take him out quite easily.

While I will admit that Tsukasa is quite good, he's not perfect. AS Takenoko mentioned, he's arrogant to a fault and he's dependant upon Yuusuke AND Natsumi to be his moral center. Still, I feel that Tsukasa is more well rounded than a Gary Stu, but I've found that Gary Stu can mean different things to different people. Still, I think Tsukaka being an interesting character cancels out any bit of Gary Stu-ness he might have.
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I just find the Mary Sue criticism kind of baseless in general. Maybe it's not a criticism at all. But I just don't see how one would know that unless the author admitted that they wrote the character as if it were for him or herself in that part
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1) He's the main character. All main characters are automatically the center of attention and would very loosely qualify to be Mary Sues in their own right, but that's a bit of a silly thing to say.

2) Tsukasa keeps ending up with /really bad/ spots in the worlds. The only way he could get it any worse is if he ended up as, like, a janitor. Low-ranked policeman? REALLY-low-ranked BOARD cook? ZECT gumby? C'mon, really, if he was a Gary Stu (for real) he would get way better jobs than that from the start. (That he earns them in some cases is aside the point.) Now, Daiki, THAT'S a Gary Stu, if we brush aside the fact he's been starting to lose fights as his aura of invincible new character wears off. Always one step ahead, usually incredibly smarter and more successful than the rest of the cast.

Dunno, just my two cents. If you want a series where the main character is a Gary Stu, try watching Kabuto. :)
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Tendou was such a Gary Stu it wasn't even funny.
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TerminusEst13 wrote:Tendou was such a Gary Stu it wasn't even funny.
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Drium wrote:
TerminusEst13 wrote:Tendou was such a Gary Stu it wasn't even funny.
"HAHA, I HAVE DESTROYED THE HYPER ZECTER AND YOUR FUTURE, KABUTO. WHAT WILL YOU DO NOW?" "No u." "WTF!" "Hyper Cast Off." "FFFFFFF--"
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Well, Tsukasa's far from perfect...
He can't take photographs very well, he even admitted at one time he sucks at photography (though it is implied it's because that wasn't his "world")
Not to mention some of his hairs and clothes looks bad... Yet he claims he looks good in said outfit...
Sure he fights very well, but then again, all main characters will somehow know how to fight monster even when they never fought s monster before
Not to mention his arrogance...

Now for Tendou... He... Is... Too... Perfect...
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TerminusEst13 wrote:Tendou was such a Gary Stu it wasn't even funny.
He was such a Gary Stu that it WAS funny, IMO. The best part was that there were rare moments when he was at fault but still buffed the dent out with his smooth and sky-pointing attitude. XD

Yeah, Tsukasa's got his flaws; it's always hilarious to see what crappy job he gets next. I mean, come on, a high schooler? How old is he?! XDD
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Tendou had a minor incapability streak some time past the halfway point.
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Oh yeah, I totally forgot that time when Tendou freaked out after thinking that Juuka is in "love"
His reaction was priceless :lol: :lol: :lol:
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From what I've seen so far, not really. He really doesn't tend to think things through and is impulsive. You can really tell when Yuusuke misinterprets his motivations and gives Tsukasa more credit for his actions than Tsukasa actually intended.
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takenoko wrote:Not really. Tsukasa's far from perfect. Sure, he has the latent ability of 10 people, but they balance it with arrogance and having him rely on Yuusuke to be his conscience
That and he sucks at taking photos. :U
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