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Post by takenoko » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:24 pm

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It's alright. A real solid 4 out of 5. A lot more enjoyable than the series itself, but there's nothing that's transcendent about it.

Looks like Komura Junko didn't write this one? Weird.

The returns does a good job at wrapping up the loose ends in the series, while also basically ignoring the few interesting points that did occur during the TV run. Because of this, it feels like they were saving up story points that they should have addressed during the main plot.

Wrap up:
*Sela and Leo's big rematch. Leo learns to respect Sela and subsequently beats her up with his overwhelming strength. Maybe would have been less disappointing if it happened during the main plot? I guess Leo falling too is proof that Sela has in fact become as strong as he is, but it feels a little less satisfying this way.
*Condor boy is back. So instead of getting the movie tie-in during the show, we get it here. JyuohCondor is just Yamato and Bado combined and only lasts 2 minutes? *Neutral reaction*
*Some closure for the three animals that Misao sucked up. But only really for the rhino.

Wait, just three things? That's the thing with this series. For a show that mostly ignores character development and their relationships, this is sort of all there is? So I get why you'd save this stuff for the clean up episode, but it also highlights the complete lack of substance of the main show.

Here's an idea. The big plot consequence of the show is that the worlds are combined. How about spending the majority of the episode focusing on the troubled race relations between Humans and Jyumans? Instead, we get like 2 minutes of seeing everyone getting along. The transition was no problem, apparently. Personally, I think that would have made for a more interesting story. At least Tusk has glasses now, nice!

Stuff that shows the writer probably didn't watch the show:
*Misao has a girlfriend? You see, in my head canon, Misao was clearly gay. His feelings of not fitting in. His indecision between Tusk and Yamato (Tusk x Misao superior). So him getting a girlfriend here is troubling, even if it is an Jyuman. Clearly all you need to do to get him interested in women is to shove boobs in his face a couple of times!
*Naria is still going on about Genis? That's so troubling considering her end in the show...
*Amu doesn't do anything clever. Frankly, she's just underused in this.

Removing Yamato from the tournament early on was a smart move. Red getting everything is getting tiresome.

Why'd Bado turn into two jewels? I know it's so we think Yamato got hit too, but it makes no sense? They break the orange one and he is released, so it's not like both of them are Bado. Or are they?

A point for remembering about Jagd.

But regardless of the nitpicks, it's good to watch a Sentai where I don't spend any time feeling bored or annoyed.

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Re: Jyuohger Returns released

Post by VerusMaya II » Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:23 pm

They used the same location for the "black casino" that they did for a similar plot in Timeranger. It is a nice set, but funny to see it hasn't changed in all these years.
takenoko wrote:Why'd Bado turn into two jewels? I know it's so we think Yamato got hit too, but it makes no sense? They break the orange one and he is released, so it's not like both of them are Bado. Or are they?
Because when Yamato and Bado are in Pakone's office, Bado picks up an orange jewel. He doesn't put it back down. Gosh take did you even watch!?

Speaking of Pokane, why bother showing him take a puff of his... cigar?? and then blow it out, but not even add any smoke? I swear I've seen smoking depicted in tokusatsu before, so surely it's not a censorship thing?

I definitely read Misao as gay as well, but I'm not surprised they shoved in a het romance. They always do that.

I figure race relations is ~too real~ for a Neo-Heisei production so they skimmed over the earth/JyuLand fusion and pretended everything is hunky-dory.
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Post by TypicalStandUser » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:00 pm

Is this a pose a reference to any of his previous Sentai roles?
Niibori was Change Dragon's suit actor. The Changeman opening has that pose he did.

Of this home video, it's alright. It's great that Sela and Leo settled their rivalry, Misao-kun found love with yet another TsundeRie/a character voiced by Rie Kugimiya and Bernie Ackah after 5D's!! Come back to Kamen Rider, bro!!
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Post by takenoko » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:24 am

>Because when Yamato and Bado are in Pakone's office, Bado picks up an orange jewel. He doesn't put it back down. Gosh take did you even watch!?

I don't remember details!

>Speaking of Pokane, why bother showing him take a puff of his... cigar?? and then blow it out, but not even add any smoke? I swear I've seen smoking depicted in tokusatsu before, so surely it's not a censorship thing?

I'm not sure if he's smoking? If you look, what he takes the puff on is his fan.

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Post by Lunagel » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:51 pm

The late 90s called, they want their stupid boob grabbing gags back.

Pocane is played by Hayashiya Taihei, who is a HUUUUUUGE name in the rakugo world and entertainment world in general (we're talking like household name level) so I can't believe they actually managed to get him. The fan he holds is a reference to his rakugo roots, and the bit with the four generals kneeling on mats is referencing Sho-Ten, a well-known show (like Jeopardy level, culturally) that he is a regular on.

Niibori Kazuo should've wiped the floor with Sela. You can totally tell in the footage that he's a pro.

Okay, the actual *bunny* girl in the casino is pretty clever.

JyuohCondor is clearly a really, really bad digital color swap. Could you not pull together a suit? Ugh, it hurts my eyes.

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Post by takenoko » Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:47 pm

Oh, credits to Luna for translating the mahjong lines.

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Post by Phoenix512 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:13 am

I'm glad that they didn't put JyuohCondor in the subtitle and try to make it a thing *coughs*TOQGER-7*coughs*.

It was decent. Sela got her serious fight with Leo which was a good subplot. They should have done something more with Rhino Jyuman that's part of Misao. Also I find it fitting that he hooks up with a Jyuman since he already awkward with other humans.

I love how Jagd got ignored by everyone since he was the first one defeated by the Jyuohgers.

It was weird that the Jyuohgers thank you message at the end was filmed in their old costumes and hairstyles instead of the ones in Returns.
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Post by windfall » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:10 am

I'm really going to miss this team.

Since we're probably not going to get any further information about the situation, I'm just going to pretend that Misao is simply going through a phase and that he'll end up back with Yamato eventually. Lilian's interested because she sees the rhino in him and he's interested because someone is finally interested in him. That sounds more like an infatuation rather than the basis for an actual relationship.

Also Yamato was totally flirting with that wink when Misao asked why they were dressed like that.

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Post by resop2 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:37 pm

Plus points for Leo/Sela.

I think that Bado picked up a red jewel since he would "obviously" turn into an orange jewel (not that it was necessary to keep with the color coding since the bad guy had no idea at this point what Yamoto's "color" was).

And, in the end Sailor Moon defeats big evil with a attack with all of her senshi supporting her. Oops, wrong show. Or, maybe not. I thought it was kind of a Tuxedo Mask thing for Bado to snatch Yamoto out of harms way in the tournament.

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Post by HowlingSnail » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:50 pm

Just an FYI, The "Amu-chan. Good. Cute." line early on is mis-timed. It comes up WAY too early.
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Post by 09MurphyM » Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:13 am

It's weird how the condor zyuman from the movie showed up but Larry, who was a recurring character in the actual show never even got a mention.

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Post by sentaidragon » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:09 am

takenoko wrote: I'm not sure if he's smoking? If you look, what he takes the puff on is his fan.
yeah, he was "smoking" his fan... and i don't get why, 'cause it makes no sense at all xD...
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Post by Zerato » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:08 am

I only have 2 problems (read nitpicks) with this:

1. Where the hell was Larry in all of this? Could they not get his VA to come back or something?

2. Since when can the Zyuoh TheLight be used as a lightsaber?

Otherwise, I really enjoyed it and it reminded me of what I loved about Zyuohger to begin with. 5/5

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Post by Kurokage X » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:57 am

I need to get back to this series since I'm missing out on many things prior to this since I'm loving this special, a serious step up from Ninninger's special, then again Zyuohger is a step up from Ninninger in it of itself

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Nice for Misao to get a girlfriend, that's a zyuman but whatever I feel like it's developed fine with the exception of the boob gag, twice

Nice to see some closure on Sela & Leo's fight
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Post by HowlingSnail » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:41 am

I liked the movie as a whole. My only real disappointment comes from it not being what I'd have done for a Zyuohger V-Cinema. I was hoping for a focus on the problems of cramming two separate societies together and forcing them to live together. "Damn Zyumen, coming over here, stealing our jobs and destroying our way of life!"
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