KR Zi-O 07 released

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KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by takenoko » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:33 pm

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Last week's Zi-O rating: 2.89 / 5 (19 votes)

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Probably the best episode so far. The A plot and B plot both felt thoughtfully developed. It finally feels like we're spending some time with the Zi-O core cast and it's pretty fun. Woz is back and he's doing stuff.

The plot with the guest characters is also pretty interesting. I hope Another Wizard doesn't end up being a "scorned nice guy", but otherwise, I'm enjoying the simplicity of the B plot, since it helps support the A plot a lot more.

I think Geiz is the most interesting character of the episode. He ends up being right about Another Wizard, but he's kind of a dick, so it's hard to root for him. And Woz saves him and the guy's barely even grateful. I wouldn't mind it if Geiz fills the "he's an asshole, but he's always right" role, but Geiz needs to be more right about things to fill it.

Even the Timejackers are getting involved. I notice that Schwartz says a line he did before, so maybe that's his catchphrase. Hope I wrote something good for it last time. That's the danger of translating with incomplete knowledge, you can't always predict when a certain phrasing is needed for the future. Like Sougo's "I've got a feeling..." lines.

Grading on a curve, this was a 5/5 for me. It didn't do anything that particularly stood out, but at this point, a decently amusing episode that isn't problematic is worth a 5 star rating.

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Maybe I'm a bit slow, but is all this king talk because Japan is about to get a new emperor?

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It wouldn't be a Wizard tribute episode if the good guys didn't let the monster slowly walk away.

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Re: KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by TypicalStandUser » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:55 pm

Minase Yashiro from W Forever/KR Eternal V-Cinema’s back! She was the T2 Fire Dopant!

Good on Geiz to start hunting down the MOTW early.

And so, we come to the phase of the story on how the Riders should deal with the Another Riders based on their initial actions. Geiz just wants the MOTW taken out because it’s a potential threat to everything while Sougo wants to find out why the user is a MOTW.

How frank. Schwartz nearly does it but Woz saves the day, and proves he’s no pushover. That said, if Woz did not want Sougo to befriend Geiz, why save the latter?

Hmm. Hayase/The MOTW loves Yashiro-san and used his MOTW powers for entertainment and impressing her, but the other guy, Nagayama (The guy in the cold open with the usual magic tricks), won Yashiro-san’s affection. Seems Nagayama has inadvertently pushed Hayase to despair without the help of the "Wiseman" group (Medusa/Phoenix/Gremlin) and Ora, luckily enough, has encouraged the MOTW to kill Nagayama.

Eh episode.
One more announcement of a Tezuka manga getting adapted for small/big screens, I'll fund myself a trip to Japan to watch them.

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Re: KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by takenoko » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:43 pm

> That said, if Woz did not want Sougo to befriend Geiz, why save the latter?

It's because Woz wants to give Geiz an opportunity to serve Zi-O. After saving him, he offers Geiz the chance to stand by Zi-O's side, but Geiz refuses. That's when Woz turns on him.

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Re: KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by Catastrophe » Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:00 pm

Best episode so far. There was good focus on all factions involved (Team Zi-O, Time Jackers and Woz) and the plot for the Another Rider was decently explored.

The weakest part of it is Sougo himself. Like I get they are trying to say that Geiz is taking it too far, but he is always right about this shit while Sougo comes across as naive.

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Re: KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by resop2 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:34 pm

So, the Timejackers are trying to create their own Dark King by creating Another Riders? Is that their only plan? Because, after the first couple of times, it's pretty obvious that the plan has no chance to succeed. The Another Riders are way too self centered and concerned with their own story line to care about being a dark king. And, if your further plan is to psychologically shock the Another Rider so they lose agency and become monsters, what is the point? The dark king of the future is already a monster. Why go back in time to create a redundant monster? Sounds like a hassle to me.

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Re: KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by PDA » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:00 pm

best episode so far, no doubt

but the questions about how and why time jackers want psycologically not trust people become their kings seems strange or dumb(and highly impossible)

and sougo still being the weak link on show...

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Re: KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by takenoko » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:53 pm

Stop adding the space in Timejacker, it's based on Hijacker which is one word. :P Stop jacking the time, y'all.

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Re: KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by resop2 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:36 pm

Total randomness: Is Tsukuyomi always shot from her right on the show? The front page picture of her for last week is shot from her left and I barely recognize her.

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Re: KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by Dante ShadowRoadz » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:46 pm

Cripes, was this one actually palatable? Though the bit with Another Wizard using Gravity to toss stuff around like Telekinesis annoyed me. The fights were very... meh. Self contained and brief, Another Wizard doesn't seem to have any fighting instinct to him and his spells are all frantic and flailing. Though at this rate the Bland Three may drop down to the Bland Two, if we actually get more character development for the protagonists over the Timejackers.

Also from the teaser, its looking like Geiz is definitely retaining executive use of his main Riders' Watches, which is making less and less sense as they made the effort to push secondary Watches like Cross-Z and now Beast. Which should frankly be annoying the crap out of Woz a lot more than it does since Zi-O is supposed to be the one accumulating all these Rider powers. I'd understand if they did it to push the rivalry angle between Sougo and Geiz, but they missed a perfectly good opportunity for that with both Fourze and Faiz already, coulda used the Meteor and Kaixa Watches in that case. Unless they plan to make it so they both get half the total main Heisei Riders and are forced to fight eachother to determine who becomes "king", though with Geiz' motivations that doesn't work at all.

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Re: KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by takenoko » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:03 pm

resop2 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:36 pm
Total randomness: Is Tsukuyomi always shot from her right on the show? The front page picture of her for last week is shot from her left and I barely recognize her.
Mirror World???

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Re: KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by resop2 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:41 pm

takenoko wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:03 pm
resop2 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:36 pm
Total randomness: Is Tsukuyomi always shot from her right on the show? The front page picture of her for last week is shot from her left and I barely recognize her.
Mirror World???
I would guess that the actress who plays Tsukuyomi insists on being shot from one side since she thinks that side is cuter.

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Re: KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by njb » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:37 pm

my main complaint with this episode was that they did not retain the original voice of the WizarDriver. Sigh.
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Re: KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by Catastrophe » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:29 am

They are inconsistent with how the Another Riders work. Another Fourze used both the same sounds and effects as the original. I wonder if it because different episodes have different directors?

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Re: KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by HowlingSnail » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:36 am

It's just another thing where attention to detail is out the window.
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Re: KR Zi-O 07 released

Post by dancercotillion » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:30 pm

njb wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:37 pm
my main complaint with this episode was that they did not retain the original voice of the WizarDriver. Sigh.
To be fair, yo, this is not the WizarDriver. This is SPQQKY SPQQKY SKELETON DRIVER. Look at those sweet metatarsals on his waist. And those skulls on his shoulders.

I'll admit, Another Wizard is provocative in a strangely sexual way. It's not that I find death arousing, but...
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