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Subs different?

Post by gridman » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:18 pm

I'm absolutely loving that you guys have taken up Dairanger. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people start Dairanger as a sub project and then give up about episode 3...

One question about the subbing/typeseting - Is there something different about how you sub an older DVD based series? I ask because, as fas as I can tell, your other projects have the subs higher on the screen. The ones on Dairanger (at least up to episode 4) are falling low into my TVs overscan area and I can only see the top half of the words.

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Re: Subs different?

Post by Lunagel » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:27 pm

This is the dimensions of the video itself, nothing we can do. The older series (e.g. Dairanger, Megaranger, Magiranger) are 640 x 480, whereas the newer stuff (Gekiranger, Shinkenger) are 704 x 396. The older sentai seems to be mainly in fullscreen whereas newer sentai and most of KR is widescreen.

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Re: Subs different?

Post by gridman » Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:44 pm

Lunagel wrote:This is the dimensions of the video itself, nothing we can do. The older series (e.g. Dairanger, Megaranger, Magiranger) are 640 x 480, whereas the newer stuff (Gekiranger, Shinkenger) are 704 x 396. The older sentai seems to be mainly in fullscreen whereas newer sentai and most of KR is widescreen.
Interesting. Is it possible to accommodate the different resolution and "nudge 'em up a bit" or is that somehow fixed by the titling software?

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Re: Subs different?

Post by lostinbrave » Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:21 pm

how high we talking like 6-12 pixels higher, cause that will probably be do able. maybe even as few as 4 pixels will be fine, depending on how large the font used now is.
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Post by gridman » Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:59 pm

lostinbrave wrote:how high we talking like 6-12 pixels higher, cause that will probably be do able. maybe even as few as 4 pixels will be fine, depending on how large the font used now is.
I will do a little experimentation tomorrow and see if I can't come up with a number. However, just by way of comparison, I took two TV Nihon projects (Dairanger and Decade) and, although I know they're done at different resolutions, I scaled them vertically to compare the relative height to the bottom of the frame. Remembering that all TVs will scale the picture and then afterwards cut off the overscan area.

Anyway, looking at this picture comparing the two, and then looking at the Dairanger ones on my TV, the baseline of the letters in "again?!" on the right is just about where the letters get cut off in the Dairanger on the left.

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I'll have to break out Photoshop and do some math to work out how many pixels that actually represents.

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Re: Subs different?

Post by Phoenix512 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:19 pm

Show me on this picture at what line that you see on your TV. The blue are the overscan areas.

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Re: Subs different?

Post by gridman » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:28 pm

Phoenix512 wrote:Show me on this picture at what line that you see on your TV. The blue are the overscan areas.

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How about a shot of the actual picture?
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I'd say the cutoff line is just slightly higher that the lower overscan line on your image.

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Re: Subs different?

Post by Sexy_RoboVoice » Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:07 pm

you could always take the video file and modify it into a slightly widescreen format. there are programs that can do that quite easily.

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Re: Subs different?

Post by Kamen_Rider_Chojin » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:24 pm

What way are you watching it on? If you're streaming it on your TV through an Xbox 360, Use the d-pad to select the display icon to toggle what display size you want. If you're streaming it on your TV through a PS3, bring the in-video menu and select the screen size icon to choose what screen size that's suited. Hope this helps you.

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Re: Subs different?

Post by XIII » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:29 pm

also to note if your using a PC and you have a nVidia graphics card, you can manually adjust the screen res from the nVidia control centre to compensate for overscan
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