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OOO medals vs. W Gaia memories

Post by markoclix » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:31 pm

I really like both of these shows but one of the things I've noticed is that in OOO I'm still not quite sure exactly what each medal does for OOO. Of course there are some that get more use than others so we are familiar with them (insert your own example here). However, by this point in W I feel like we had a pretty good idea of what each of their Gaia Memories did. So when the MOTW showed up you could begin to make a guess at how Shotarou might handle it or at least what memories you thought would be interesting to see. With OOO you never quite know what to expect when combining medals into "forms" that aren't combos. Its almost like the writers haven't quite figured it out yet either. And by evidence in the show Eiji sure hasn't. Ankh may be the only one who really knows what each medal does. What are other people's thoughts on this?
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Re: OOO medals vs. W Gaia memories

Post by CrimsonJoker » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:39 pm

Agreed. I usually use a chart on TV Tropes (I do recommend you not having a life to lose before going there) but even then some come out of nowhere like the Unagi's water jets. Also, half of them are only from scans. For example: the Shachi has sonic powers? Okay I never remember seeing that. The Sai head's entire point is to hit someone with you head? That's painful.

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Re: OOO medals vs. W Gaia memories

Post by atilim » Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:41 pm

Their where much less combinations with Gaia memories so not surprising that you knew all of the combo's their, and usually most certain memories where always used together like heat/metal, luna/trigger etc.

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Re: OOO medals vs. W Gaia memories

Post by Catastrophe » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:40 pm

I'm fairly certain that there is a description for each on the offical website. Might just be the combos though.

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Re: OOO medals vs. W Gaia memories

Post by HyperDrake » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:36 pm

All Head medals:
- Lion: Can use blinding/dazzling light (or heat) against others
- Kuwagata: Can use electricity to electrocute others
- Sai: Makes OOO's body tougher and can head-butt others
- Taka: Extremely-improved vision to locate things
- Shachi: A bit similar with Taka but via sound waves (animal Echolocation). They displayed it thermal vision-like style, though
- Ptera: Flight ability and can generate Ice, maybe
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It's not that hard to figure out the ability of each medal respectively if you study it yourself via watching the whole episodes without any websites help at all. The W Gaia memories ability are easier to figure coz it's fewer in quantity than OOO medals
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Re: OOO medals vs. W Gaia memories

Post by kokowaks » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:07 pm

aside from the numbers, when those medals are made into combos they greatly improve the rider's power to the point of almost near the same level of ultimate forms... yeah sure memories have some kind of synergy when paired with another but combo's offer more than that although with some consequences...

also... its not only OOO's who has those medals... those medals that he have constantly rotate or exchange with the enemy that's why eiji is only limited to those combos they have available, unlike W who has their memories with them all the time...

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Post by MaskedRideEclipse » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:52 am

From my opinion, the head medal had a slight usage when in single and in combo, such as
-Taka Medal
Individual usage: Infrared vision? Well, Eiji can see inside of Kazari.
Combo Usage : It's the Taka Wing that can fly. Kujaku only don't have the wing to fly.
-Kuwagata Medal
Individual usage: Generate lightning (Uva can do that too)
Combo Usage : Split into a massive amount of clone.
-Raion Medal
Individual usage: Blind enemies with dazzling light (effective on Gamel)
Combo Usage : Heat off enemies (at the first, Eiji boiled the river water)
-Sai Medal
Sai didn't really had an usage from my opinion, it's there just to headbutt anyone.
-Shachi Medal
Individual usage: Sonar vision (detect far range enemies)
Combo Usage : Turn the whole body into liquid (like Bio-Rider)
-Ptera Medal
Ptera still never been use in individual (or it can't as PuToTera suit are silver different from others and the medal ring are slightly bigger than others) The usage of Ptera (in combo) is to freeze enemy and to fly (Flying T-Rex, WHOA!!!)
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Re: OOO medals vs. W Gaia memories

Post by HyperDrake » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:21 pm

MaskedRideEclipse wrote: Combo Usage : It's the Taka Wing that can fly. Kujaku only don't have the wing to fly.
-Kuwagata Medal
Individual usage: Generate lightning (Uva can do that too)
Combo Usage : Split into a massive amount of clone.
-Sai Medal
Sai didn't really had an usage from my opinion, it's there just to headbutt anyone.
>>> About TaJaDor combo' wings a.k.a TaJaDor combo' flight ability issue.
- Taka/falcon or hawk - Head part
- Kujaku/male Peafowl a.k.a Peacock - Body part
- Condor (a type of Vulture) - Legs part
I agree with you to put aside Kujaku medal since Kujaku are classified as a non-flying bird. That leaves Taka and Condor then. How could you assume that the wings of TaJaDor combo are the courtesy of Taka medal?? Considering Condor are classified as flying bird too, both medals (Taka and Condor) have the same possibility to contribute in TaJaDor combo' flying ability a.k.a the wings of TaJaDor combo. It's a 50-50 thing, I believe.
But still my theory is not without its flaw if you take into consideration the irregularity of the shape of the bird on the OOO TaJaDor combo' chest. TaJaDor could be the only combo which three foundation medals form a new single entity (bird in this case). Which bird exactly is that on TaJaDor combo' chest? Is it Taka, or Kujaku or Condor? Or is it a new different type of bird maybe???

>>> About GataKiriBa combo' clones/multiplying ability.
The ability in question is the exclusive property of GataKiriBa combo. We don't know for sure whether that ability comes from Kuwagata or Kamakiri or Batta medal. Maybe, the writer came with the idea for that ability from those insects which often appear in a great deal of numbers. My bet is on the Batta (Grasshopper) medal which is seen as one of hated pests by most farmers/peasants, though sole Batta medal can't produce that clones ability.

>>> About the Sai medal which you posted as useless aside from the head-butting feature. You should re-watch the second part of Hino's-faggot-like (not actually faggot though) high-school-friend arc. There, Hino fought the Snow Owl Yummy using Sai-Unagi-Batta combination. You'll recall that Sai has other feature aside from head-butting attack, that is to toughen OOO body and or power-up OOO physical strength.
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Post by MaskedRideEclipse » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:10 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^@HyperDrake
It's my delusion for Taka being the fly wing for TaJaDoru. It's from the shape of the wing itself that I though it's Taka. However, I'm curious to see if Kujaku only could fire peacock Feather as it's Kujaku Wing or it could be accessible only in combo.
About the TaJaDoru ring, it probably a Phoenix, as the shape really resembles Phoenix.
Actually about the head medal had a slight usage in individual and in combo are just my delusion as the head medal are being the thenth core (which means they have there amount per type).
How bout, that the combo itself had the speciality, TaJaDoru had the ability to fire feathers and the wing probably the combo specials (probably is a phoenix wing), GataKiriBa Combo had the ability to split, SaGouZo had the ability to pressure the gravity and ShaUTa turning into water.
About the SaUBa, if the Sai usage is in individual, how can it strengthen others part?
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Re: OOO medals vs. W Gaia memories

Post by HyperDrake » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:08 pm

>>> Phoenix, eh. Are you sure? The Phoenix is universally known as fantasy/mythological beast, not simply an ordinary type of bird or poultry. Isn't fantasy/mythological (or extinct) beasts the exclusive property of the purple core medals??

>>> TaJaDor combo' abilities, as far as I can recall.
I. Equipped with spinner-like long range weapon that can:
a. Shoot fireball or fire orbs
b. Act as a shield
c. Act as a flamethrower
d. Perform Giga Scan finisher moves in three main variations:
d.1. Using cell medals only
d.2. Using any random core medals (aside from Taka-Kujaku-Condor core medals simultaneously)
d.3. Using Taka-Kujaku-Condor core medals simultaneously (you know, that
Gigantic fire bird)
II. Extremely improved vision (can see through the insides of stuff and
long-distance)
III. Flight ability
IV. Shoots Kujaku feather bullets
V. TaJaDor combo' Rider Kick

As for the Kujaku medal only abilities, it's only some of the above listed, that is: Point I.a; I.b; I.d.1; I.d.2; and II.

>>> About the Sai medal that has the effect of strengthening the physical attack and defense of OOO. Well, that's true. Re-watch the episode that I told you before and you can clearly see it yourself (again) that certain event plus the line that Hino mentioned about the effect of Sai.
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Re: OOO medals vs. W Gaia memories

Post by OOOKaiser » Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:05 pm

OOO medals for the win. The gaia memories are okay but they're not that powerful against OOO's combos.

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Re: OOO medals vs. W Gaia memories

Post by Kogashi » Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:24 pm

Well, the Medals, which to be fair are more the Greeed's medals, are containers of greed (desire) and the power that such an unlimited power can bring out. The power brought about by the want for things, the want for love, the want for survival, the want to do the right thing, the want for destruction and so on. I would think the Medals would have more raw power per unit.

On the other hand, the medals are very, very picky. A Core Medal's power is only really of use to either the Greeeds or to OOOs. If someone just off the street picked up a Core Medal, or even a Cell Medal, you would need enough money to start a company to even start the figure out how to use them or the power within. The Gaia Memories on the other hand, almost anyone can use as long as they have a port or similar. Even without an instruction manual, the second you plug that memory into your port, you just need to try your memory out to figure out how to use it. So in it's own way the Gaia Memories' accessibility, a pure wave of memories of everything in the world, can I think eventually overwhelm the raw force of the Medal's greed.

... But here's a real thought... What a Greed or Desire memory might be... ... I bet Desire just ends up in an H doujinshi ^^;
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Re: OOO medals vs. W Gaia memories

Post by kokowaks » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:15 am

medals>memories...

although each has its own attributes in which some could form synergy with the other types but once the medals are made into a combo its almost like an ultimate form... from the movie core, the red combo was presented as almost an equal with cyclonxjoker gold extreme....

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Post by Kamen Rider » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:48 pm

I think the taka medal contributes to the wings because in the Tatoba scanning charge, OOO grows wings to execute his finisher

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Post by MaskedRideEclipse » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:09 am

Kamen Rider wrote:I think the taka medal contributes to the wings because in the Tatoba scanning charge, OOO grows wings to execute his finisher
That is possible..
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