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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by arromdee » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:36 pm

dancercotillion wrote:That may actually have been why the crowd stopped cheering the names after RX appeared, they had no idea who these random dudes were and it took a boxing announcer to say it.
Hmm, that makes sense. I wonder if it was meant that way...

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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by MaskedRideEclipse » Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:06 pm

dancercotillion wrote:Most of the old Riders did exist in the same world, if not all of them, up to the franchise petering out after BLACK RX. That may actually have been why the crowd stopped cheering the names after RX appeared, they had no idea who these random dudes were and it took a boxing announcer to say it.
HAHA! I've never really thought of that. I suppose that it was the moment were the adults stopped cheering as they doesn't know the new guy but the children started cheering for the new guy as they've only seen them.
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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by kokowaks » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:15 pm

i guess they want the showa riders to get some more credit... plus they also bring the older audience to watch the movie... the heisei guys were already featured more during decade's time...

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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by MaskedRideEclipse » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:29 pm

kokowaks wrote:i guess they want the showa riders to get some more credit..
Yeah because they put a lot of work on suit revival.
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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by Therm_Kitty » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:40 pm

I liked how Delza and Gorgom's apocalyptic desires were brought up and set aside at the Shocker meeting. Villains aren't uniformly evil! I'd like to see how the various factions would deal with things like the Grongi games or the Mirror World Riders.

As for the Riders reappearing, it's really quite logical once you narrow things down:
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1. Time is memory. As long as a destroyed timeline's events are directly remembered, they can come back.
2. Nobody besides the Denliner travelers could have remembered the Riders since they never existed in this timeline.
3. Out of the travelers that left Denliner, there is only one who could have lived through and observed each Rider's life in the original timeline
4. After the Showa Riders came back into existence, Riders stopped appearing so this person could make a speech and they continued afterwards
5. The unrelated Kikaider bros (buy the DVDs), Inazuman and Zubat reappeared after he said they would.
6. He's known for helping without calling attention to it (the broken prison in Ore Tanjou comes to mind.)


I also loved how the plot changed from a standard Heisei apocalypse story to a standard Showa twisty-plot. The fake item with a tracking device (which Rider 1 never had enough time to feasibly create) was classic, as was the Great Leader's unnecessary fake-out. All it needed was a commercial break before Gen. Black's explanation.

In the end, I loved this as a tribute to the originals more than anything else. They could have made it a "Rider 1" story and canonize the First/Next gear, but they chose to use the originals and they still hold up pretty well. I only wish that the director could have remembered that Rider 1 and 2's chest plates go behind their belts like in the next movie. Seriously, they were flopping around a lot in the slo-mo shot. But it's charming in its own way.

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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by edriel13 » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:37 am

Things i pointed out.. ^_^

-Almost 300 people gathered or paid for a big scene on this movie, and directing them is a hard job. GOOD JOB!!!

-Great apocalyptic present day scenery and history twists. Going back in time to fix what they have done made the present day more worse. >.< it is BOUND TO HAPPEN.

-Again, a gathering of all Kamen Riders, and 0% voice come back. >.< i would still love to hear voices of the original riders. It would be satisfying just to hear their catchphrases which may be cut in their episode list of their respective season.

-a big ENEMY AGAIN? why didnt they use
Kamen Rider J + Kamen Rider Decade + Kamen Rider Diend -->FINAL FORM RIDE --> DECADE --> FINAL KAMEN ATTACK FORM RIDE
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some of Decade's form ride cards to transform some kamen riders.
(im sure they want to emphasize OOO here but... they just made the other riders powers (and powerups) useless.

-I just wished a more close up with the secondary riders . =(


but overall, the movie is 9/10.. ^_^

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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by Therm_Kitty » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:34 pm

edriel13 wrote: -Almost 300 people gathered or paid for a big scene on this movie, and directing them is a hard job. GOOD JOB!!!
Oh, that reminds me: the scene with Eiji transforming at the beginning of the post-crucifixion fight had to be something that the people working on it begged to do. Heisei transformations are big and CG to hide the actor/suit swap. Pulling off a transformation while surrounded by moving extras that smoothly gives a SFX team enormous bragging rights.

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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by Dengar » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:47 pm

arromdee wrote:(we're supposed to believe riders one and two were pretending to be evil for 40 years?)

Who said anything about 40 years? That's even physically impossible. That kid's father was only taken by Shocker recently, and he's the one who undid the brainwashing. They probably were 'fixed' by the time they first appeared, but probably not very long ago.

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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by missileboy11 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:47 am

Was I the only one disappointed in ...'s DEN-O all riders make a brief generic cameo? The best scenes were the ones devoid of anything related to Den-O, which were few and far inbetween. Hopefully one day they can make an all riders movie without Den-O dominating it. *sigh* A man can only dream......

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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by Niek » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:28 am

Okay, I just saw the movie. And I was really bored with it. I really don't like this movie. It had nothing exiting and if they are going to do an all rider movie every year or two then they better give those showa riders before Black an upgrade. It just looks incredibly awfull. They could have better used Ichigo, Nigo and V3 from the Heisei movies First and Next.

All in all I was incredibly bored with the movie. Or I'm just fed up with all those anniversary stuff in Kamen Rider and Super Sentai.
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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by MaskedRideEclipse » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:04 pm

Niek wrote:They could have better used Ichigo, Nigo and V3 from the Heisei movies First and Next.
Well, in the
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, you could see Black Ichigo
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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by Therm_Kitty » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:02 pm

MaskedRideEclipse wrote:
Niek wrote:They could have better used Ichigo, Nigo and V3 from the Heisei movies First and Next.
Well, in the
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Movie Megamax
, you could see Black Ichigo
It's actually the old Rider 2 suit, from the period where they were trying to make the Double Riders more distinct from each other.
Niek wrote:if they are going to do an all rider movie every year or two then they better give those showa riders before Black an upgrade. It just looks incredibly awfull. They could have better used Ichigo, Nigo and V3 from the Heisei movies First and Next.
I disagree heavily. They couldn't use those suits because the reboots aren't part of the franchise. Also, they destroyed them to create the suits for the first Cho Den-O movie. But besides, there's nothing wrong with the Showa suits. They're bulkier than the suits from the original shows for some reason, but they still look great.

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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by Arawynn » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:21 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpVBbSGvZM0

Found this while i was looking for the original Kamen rider 'Rider kick' theme song.
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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by chronoxiong » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:16 pm

As a standalone movie, it was pretty decent. But as a movie that's supposed to connect with Kamen Rider history and all that stuff, it was disappointing. I had enough of time-traveling as the aspects of it have gotten my mind jumbled and I don't want to figure it all out. These extra movies are becoming too much as well as I feel like they are just ways for Toei to make money.

Anyways, some things I didn't like about this film was the fact that past KR villains are still alive and able to scheme to take over the world. So when they explode and die, do they really die? Second, I thought the flying motorcycles were ridiculous and need an explanation. Third, it was cool to see the secondary Riders appear and help, but they looked like statues. Fourth, Naoki finds out that his Father is his old childhood friend. How freaky is that? Lastly, it was cool seeing Kikaida and those other heroes but there needs a proper explanation for them too.

Things I liked were the crowd's participation in that whole sequence of the Riders coming to help out. I liked how they chanted each Rider's name too until we got to the more modern Kamen Riders. I liked that Eiji interacted with a different Hina also and did liked the idea of an alternate world without Kamen Rider. That reminds me, the previous KR movies before Den-O tooked place in alternate worlds isn't that right?
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Re: Let's Go Kamen Rider released

Post by Catastrophe » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:47 pm

I was thinking. OOO always seems to stuff up continuity. Core, this movie, and probably its own movie. Perhaps we should be blaming OOO instead of Decade for stuff like this.

Plus, we can shorten Onore OOO to OOOO.

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