Gokaiger 01 released

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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by Infernoshadow211 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:55 pm

Thanks for the new episode. I figure it must be a pain in the ass to do all new fonts and effects for each season, so thanks. I just have to say that I have never wanted to make a suit so badly until now. I love the helmet and suit design. So simple and yet so pirate-like.

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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by neonblue2 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:37 pm

So...

Japanese Space Pirate Decades with a Gundam-like mech, from another planet?

COOL :shock:

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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by JSoup » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:12 pm

I have a harder time enjoying Super Sentai, for some reason, as apposed to Kamen Rider. I think it's because Sentai tends to have more goofy humor and I'm not a big fan of that. But I'm willing to give this a shot.

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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by XIII » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:28 am

ViRGE wrote:
chickdigger802 wrote:hmm I dled the HD version. For some reason I feel the framerate is somewhat off.

Very slight stuttering.

Might just be cuz I'm installing sp 1 for win7 right now though =P
Unfortunately it doesn't look like there's anything wrong with your system. It's an IVTC issue - after the frames were reconstructed the wrong frame was dropped, resulting in a proper frame being dropped instead of the duplicate being dropped.* TV-N had the same problem with Shinkenger, and while I'm not the encoder I'm going to bet it's a problem with the raw source just as it was with Shinkenger. Whoever their raw source is on Kamen Rider doesn't have this issue, which is why it only shows up on Gokaiger with its different source.

In any case the net result is that while the file is playing at 24fps, the effective framerate drops to 18fps (3 originals + 1 dupe) at times, with those duplicate frames causing significant judder (~41ms).


* Telecine expands 24fps to 60 interlaced fields; this involves duplicating some frames and not others. IVTC can reconstruct the progressive frames from the interlaced fields, but the result is 30fps; out of a series of 5 frames, there are 4 originals and 1 duplicate. The final step of the process is discarding the duplicate.

It should be noted that TV Asahi makes this particularly difficult. If you watch carefully, those scrolling messages at the bottom of the screen in the middle of most KR/Sentai episodes are actually being inserted at 60i. So you have a 24fps film source being telecined, and then a native 60i element being inserted on top of it. It's hell for IVTC.
looks like its a bad IVTC by the Japanese encoder, not much we can do to fix that, we are looking at another raw, hopefully that will be a better
The reason Kamen Rider doesnt suffer from it, is down to use having a transport stream for it so we can do our own IVTC on it,
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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by nekuth » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:40 am

am i the only one to notice the show focused on Curry Rice? wasn't that the favourite food of one of the Gorangers? maybe we'll see a theme along those lines, a little thing from each series

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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by takenoko » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:43 am

>I literally cannot tell if there's meant to be blur on the text or if that's just bleeding, but either way what appears to be a solid block of color (the series symbols) always turns into a slightly hazy grey mess.

I just looked it over and it looks fine, with the exception of the Magi symbol because it's small and completely covered up by the words. The problem with what you're saying is that white and black are the best combinations when giving contrast, so your claim that it turns into a gray mess seems... I dunno... confusing?

The one thing I don't like about the symbol behind the words thing is that personally, I don't like the words competing with the symbol for visibility. That's why if I did a show with symbols, I'd probably prefer to have them on the side or something rather than directly behind. But yeah, maybe your later suggestion of using color would alleviate this problem

>Could you think about abandoning the 20th century now --tune fastdecode can give such great and, as the name implies, easily decodable results?

I was thinking about this too, don't you have a 360 hooked up to your monitor? Xboxes can play HD videos, I thought? Also, maybe you should get a 21st century computer so that you can play HD videos right! Hoho! That's irony for you! See what I did there? I turned what you said around... well... You know, with the mirroring of words? I think that's irony at least...

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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by ShadowX7 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:51 am

nekuth wrote:am i the only one to notice the show focused on Curry Rice? wasn't that the favourite food of one of the Gorangers? maybe we'll see a theme along those lines, a little thing from each series
It's really hard to tell that just from the 1st episode

But I guess it would be somewhat funny if every time they tried to eat curry rice, they are interrupted by their enemies
I hope they kept the school teacher, or at least someone old to explain what sentai teams the Gokaiger turns into, since I still don't know all the names of previous sentai teams
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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by Barim » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:04 am

Go-On Macaroni wrote:
Barim wrote:Most are semi-obvious, but I'm not getting the Liveman one
It's basically referring to this:
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Then the first translation I read made slightly more sense.

"Why'd their friends do that to Liveman"

The single words TVN used seemed to lose a bit of the meaning.
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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by takenoko » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:23 am

I have to admit that I actually didn't understand the Liveman one either. It's such a short line that I kind of wonder if it's a line lifted from the show like "Friends, why...?!" I guess it's just something that people can't get without being in the know. I guess we could modify it as "Friends, why did you do that?!" since the line is addressed towards the friends

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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by Lunagel » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:24 am

From what I remember about Liveman, the main villains were actually friends of the rangers until they turned to the "devil" or something like that (No, it's not a spoiler, it's in the first episode and in the talky bit before the OP) so the OP announcer says "Tomo yo...kimitachi wa naze?! blah blah blee" I'm guessing that's what they're referencing.

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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by ShadowX7 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:31 am

Okay, I've been thinking about this for a while now, but I can't come up with a logical reason for it...

So the teacher somehow knew that Gokaiger is the 35th Super Sentai, so does what does this mean, exactly?
If Super Sentai is real, then does this mean that Earth Japan is always attacked by monsters every year? (must be hard to live there :P)
What happened to the Super Sentai team that defended Japan previously?
Did they just quit after protecting Japan for 1 year? (what a bunch of jerks!)
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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by remolay » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:44 am

Each sentai series usually takes place in its own universe, correct?

We don't know this universe well enough yet, but yeah, they all seemed to have existed in it. We don't know what happened to them in this universe. They could have lost their powers until the times of the great Sentai war. They could have gone on to protect parts of the world that didn't speak Japanese. Either way, all 34 of the protected Japan at some point, and they all lost their powers sealing up this space empire.
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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by MagnaRyu » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:12 am

So far this show is off to a pretty interesting start. Can't wait to see more "sentai-cycling" (that's what i call their changing into different teams. Is it stupid calling it that? Maybe, but it's my thing so deal with it :D ).

Also I noticed people asking what happened to the other teams. Which I thought was explained very well in the begining of the episode. All the teams combined their powers and in doing so stopped the invasion but also sacrificed themselves in the process (i know i've seen that tactic used somewhere else with the same outcome but can't remember where). Their powers and essences drifting off into space (that's how i understood it).
As to how the powers were put into keys, well we will just have to watch and hopefully they explain this fully.
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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by squashy » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:05 am

I wonder if there would be a KR Decade crossover or an AkaRed episode ...
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Re: Gokaiger 01 released

Post by JSoup » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:53 am

nekuth wrote:am i the only one to notice the show focused on Curry Rice? wasn't that the favourite food of one of the Gorangers? maybe we'll see a theme along those lines, a little thing from each series
It bugged the crap out of me at the time as I had been craving beef curry rice for a few weeks (a craving a dealt with this last weekend). Sadly, it really is one of those dishes that just tastes better when a restaurant makes it.

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