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Re: Go-Busters is a pretty good, so why aren't people liking

Post by TheLastTatlFan » Sat May 12, 2012 3:02 pm

Scopi wrote:Well, examine my head all you want, the similarities ARE there in the basic concept. And I didn't say it was a GOOD or DEEP copy of Evangelion, just that it's an OBVIOUS copy of Evangelion. And having seen no episodes beyond the first, I'm still seeing references to Evangelion-esque concepts in this thread (e.g the post directly before this one, talking about young people sacrificing their youth to fight the enemy), so I don't think they stopped as completely as you say. And that's my point. Evangelion was the proper vehicle for the material. A Sentai series is going to be a lame rip-off f the same unless they drop the formula completely, which obviously didn't happen.
"Young people dedicating their lives to the fight against evil? Definitely an Evangelion rip-off!" For the love of-

You can't claim one series is a rip-off of another (to the point of not being worth watching if you've seen the one that came first, even) based on some similarities between first episodes (That you're apparently remembering wrong; Hiromu didn't need to be convinced to join the fight. He just needed to tell his sister about it first.) alone.

If you don't want to watch it, that's just fine. If you want to talk about it, though, you're going to have to watch it, or else you'll just be talking out of your ass.

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Re: Go-Busters is a pretty good, so why aren't people liking

Post by Twilight_Bard » Sat May 12, 2012 8:06 pm

I think, for me, it's a combination of, characters, and the world. The characters is easy enough. It's not, that they're unrelatable, it's that, the only person that I can actually say I remotely like is Ryuji. He's a decent person, he doesn't come off as an ass, but as an older brother character, and his weakness works. His strength and weakness go hand and hand in a nice way. Hiromu is well, an ass, he's way too full of himself and he comes off as grating, and his weakness has been abused because they have to drive it home, it honestly feels like halfway through the series, Yuko will be eating candy still, Ryuji will still need cooling down...and we won't see a damn chicken for miles. Yoko...honestly while she doesn't annoy me, I don't really feel like the way she's presented has brought anything to the show, her and Hiromu are honestly the blank slates that you see, but it's very obvious when we strip the flaws away.

The Buddyroids...something about Nick...makes me wonder why they couldn't program a GPS into him because I can't imagine a robot having that kind of direction problems.

As far as the world goes...Honestly after the hospital incident it seemed that the writers realized that Enter is too smart and too subtle and have had to actively work against him. The hospital should have had an outside line especially for what it was. The railroad though, has actual power lines...I don't know, it just doesn't seem consistant. As far as I've seen, the Go-Busters have had 1 actual victory (saving Usada) where they came up with a good plan and executed it...and have far too many loss marks for me to count.

My problems with it don't stem from Gokaiger, or any other series, it's just the small odds and ends that really don't connect right, like trying to put the wrong pieces of a puzzle together that just barely have some way of fitting.

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Re: Go-Busters is a pretty good, so why aren't people liking

Post by ponkan » Sat May 12, 2012 11:38 pm

for me, go-busters is good, storywise and plotwise. i've been watching the series since the beginning and as a super sentai enthusiast whose really craving for a good series, i'm really hooked up. but just as mentioned in above posts, i think most in the community is expecting much more from them, since this is a post-anniversary presentation and a successor of the much more favored gokaiger. another reason i guess is the changes from the usual super sentai formula (lesser roll calls, no transformation stock footage etc. more like kamen rider-esque than super sentai.) which is for me, a very good one since i want fresh ideas for a 36 year old franchise. unfortunately, most of the devoted and hardcore SS fans are not conformed to this so they definitely shrugged the show. the cast have been another contributing factor, they are less memorable and charming than their predecessors. i admit commander kuroki (played by hideo sakaki) is a bit annoying especially when he's mad or screaming (?). i liked him in his movies, especially in ryuhei kitamura's versus which he played an antagonist role, but he didn't shine up in this series unfortunately. but that's my only nitpick. overall, go-busters is a good addition to the growing super sentai franchise. the story so far is engaging (thanks to yasuko kobayashi, the same writer of another fan favorite shinkenger.) and i can't wait for beet and stagbuster to arrive soon.
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Re: Go-Busters is a pretty good, so why aren't people liking

Post by Shado Kabuto » Sun May 13, 2012 6:23 am

I haven't really watch Go-Busters after watching the first episode and I thought it had a nice promising start and had some cool PR references like when they saying '' Morphin'' while transforming. It just that I haven't been able to set aside to watch it because I'm been watching lot of older anime series. Most people aren't liking it because is that is not like the past sentai shows like Boukenger, Dekaranger, and so-on and to my knowledge, Go-Busters is more catered to the old-school type of Super Sentai. It's not a bad show or anything, it just doesn't follow the usual formula of Super Sentai.
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Re: Go-Busters is a pretty good, so why aren't people liking

Post by ReversedSentai » Sun May 13, 2012 7:29 am

In my opinion, Go-Busters isn't bad, but it is starting off slow. We haven't seen any major character development as of now. Hiromu and Youko really haven't been developing much since the first episode. I like how Enter is a pretty crafty villian though.
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Post by Kamen Rider Raven » Sun May 13, 2012 4:50 pm

I plan on giving it a go (ha ha) actually. Haven't really watched a sentai series since Magiranger. It was around then that I found Kamen Rider
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Post by Darkwings » Wed May 16, 2012 4:25 pm

Just randomly dropping by after watching some of T-N releases (thanks for the hard work, by the way).

I'm hardly a sentai expert, but I think that the problem is not the fact of coming after Gokaiger.
Gokaiger was good not just for the power-switching and all the gattai, but what I really liked was the cast and the characters.
Any lesser quality cast would have ruined the whole thing.

So yeah, the story in Go-Busters is pretty good (power sources was a perfect subject) and the 'normal' hi-tech stuff too.
Even the enemies are fine, they have a clearly defined goal and they seem credible enough.
The problem, imo, is that the Go-Busters are not stealing the show.

Maybe watching more than a few episodes will change my point of view as someone is saying it has a slow start, but honestly I'd prefer to watch Zyuranger atm. Or some more Kamen Rider.
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Re: Go-Busters is a pretty good, so why aren't people liking

Post by Conan_Edogawa » Fri May 18, 2012 5:44 pm

I love this series, actually. I always seem to like what I get when Yasuko Kobayashi is writing it, and this is no exception. Even before I knew she was the writer, this series jumped up into what WAS my top 3, turning it into my top 4 (if anyone's confused, it's not that I only like 3 other Sentai series besides Go-Busters. I'm just referring to all the ones that tie for first place in my personal rankings) in just a couple of episodes, and I can't wait to see just where this series goes.

I love Enter as a villain because he's actually competent, and even succeeds at times. Unlike with other villains where defeating the monster of the week and then the giant version was considered a "curses! foiled again!" moment, Enter runs it so that even if they beat the things, he still accomplishes a goal that furthers his cause, has the mindset of "yeah, the Go-Busters might win, but if they don't, then bonus!", and even despite being so much better at his job than many past villains, he also gives the impression he may not always care about the main goal because he's having too much fun just wrecking stuff up. I like competent enemies. I like crazy enemies. So I LOVE that Enter is both and keeps those two sides of himself balanced so effectively.

I like the Buster Machines, too, because they feel like regular Transformers combined with Transformers Beast Wars/Machines, Ace is a triple changer, which is always cool, and I just really love that there's a rabbit. I love rabbits. Go-Buster-Oh may not be too super dynamic in its fights, but it looks cool, and I have a tendency to forgive robots to a certain extent if their design is cool.

It's slowed down in recent episodes, but I like that they did henshins without using stock footage. Much as I enjoy a cool transformation sequence, seeing stock footage all the time eventually grows a bit old.

The good guys are fun, since we actually see the need for engineers and such for the giant robots, rather than just "we have a giant robot. it's always repaired the next time we have a battle. No, we won't explain whether or not it takes effort or just happens by magic." They even take time to show the other team members as actual people, rather than just set dressing. The main team is neat. I always enjoy seeing the Busters and their Buddyroids bounce off each other as they learn and grow, the boss isn't just some nice guy, which makes it fun to realize you have to root for a jerk, and the two assistants are entertaining in their own ways.

Lastly, I love the Metaroids and Megazords. The Megazords always look interesting in how they incorporate elements of the Metaroids into a pre-existing, mass produced design. The Metaroids are just plain awesome, taking simple objects (or a train) and turning them into a cool looking humanoid enemy (seriously, these are some of my favorite MotW designs in a while, particular examples as of the time I write this include Densharoid and Fanroid), and I always enjoy hearing the onomatopoeia, like Drillroid's whirring or Densharoid's "Ga-dan Ga-don".

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Re: Go-Busters is a pretty good, so why aren't people liking

Post by friendlyquark » Sat May 19, 2012 5:06 pm

It may not be standard SS, but I like it. The characters are growing on me, Youko especially. I like Enter, I am enjoying the fight sequences a lot, and I think that given time, it will be really good. So far the writing hasn't failed me, no Jealoushitto-type characters or episodes where I want to bang my head into a table. (Though I admit he grew on me as well, by the end.) So, I'm going to keep watching and see where they go with this.

If people aren't connecting, well, Captain Marvelous is a hard act to follow. :)

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Re: Go-Busters is a pretty good, so why aren't people liking

Post by DrowningFishy » Sun May 20, 2012 5:35 pm

After so many episodes I think I have come to a conclusion why I do not like this show. Like Goseingers, but not to that bad of a degree, the actors just don't seem to have any chemistry between them. Their acting to me just feels like a limp noodle. THe only exception is Enter. When he enters I am really paying attention. I love Enter, and he is the reason I am watching the season.

Does the past series play a role in how I feel about this sentai? Nope, not beyond beyond missing (or praising) the old series is gone. Also I give it the first five episode rule before I really file it in the I don't like catigory. Could my views change? Certiantly, I did with Fourze.

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Post by CeronosLive » Wed May 30, 2012 10:01 pm

I really don't understand the hate. I'd understand the 'Meh', but there's a surprising amount of hate here. o no;


I loved the show since it felt pretty different and introduced a lot of concepts and ideas that were interesting to me that I haven't quite seen in Sentai I've seen before. Of course it's not without it's flaws as unfortunately unlike Gokaiger before, not all the characters are likable. But to be honest, there's a lot of Sentai seasons where there's a lot of hit and miss with the characters, or at least with me. So while shows like Shinkenger and Gokaiger spoiled me with an all around good cast, I'm not going to turn my back on Go-Buster since there's a few characters I don't like.

And for the people who talk about the series using stock footage... Have you not seen a Super Sentai show before? There were quite a few times where I think they used stock footage from the 90's.

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Re: Go-Busters is a pretty good, so why aren't people liking

Post by Crimzonite » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:47 am

I don't hate Gobusters (or any Sentai for that matter). But I'd like to offer another possible reason for why some people might not like it. The Buddyroids give off something of a "Ryoutarou's Imagin vibe". Which is understandable, as Den-O and Gobusters are both written by Yasuko Kobayashi.

I don't hate Den-O, either. In fact, I'm probably part of a small subsection of fans who have always looked forward to the next Den-O movie. But a lot of people have gotten tired of all the Den-O movies and the numerous guest appearances of Ryoutarou's Imagin, and some of this may have rubbed off on Gobusters, whether the fans have noticed or not.

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Post by Lunagel » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:20 am

I hadn't thought about it before, but yeah, I definitely get a Den-O vibe from the Buddyroids now that you mention it. Now while I do love Den-O the series, the numerous movies and cameos of the Imagin have basically negated any credibility the laws of that world had in the series. I think deep down we're all afraid that someone will create a new Den-O and then we'll be subjected to it for the next 5 years.

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Post by Ivanhobe » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:57 pm

Lunagel wrote:I hadn't thought about it before, but yeah, I definitely get a Den-O vibe from the Buddyroids
Since episode one i have had only one thought in my head whenever i see Nick, and that is "Sword Form". Even the movements are similar.

Not to mention that J Stag is basically a strange cyborg cross between Deneb and Momo.

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Post by TheLastTatlFan » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:04 pm

J's only really like Deneb in the abuse he takes from his partner. Gorisaki's closer to how Deneb was as an individual.

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