I have question/theory on escape and enter

Who ya gonna call?
Forum rules
Image

Wiki Link

< AkibaRanger | Go-Busters | Kyouryuuger >
Post Reply
Wolfmano
Gao
Posts: 27
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:10 am
Male: Yes

I have question/theory on escape and enter

Post by Wolfmano » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:43 pm

It been long time since i posted anything. why enter call Messiah your majesty? When escape calls Messiah Papa, we know that Messiah used piece data from the people who was trap in the lab that is in hyperspace. i have theory, what if the three go-busters 13-14 years ago was not the only children that was visiting the research labs since it Christmas after all when the event happen. what if there was more children visiting. what if there were more daughters then sons that was visiting the lab reason the escape calls Messiah Papa.

User avatar
takenoko
Team Baron
Team Baron
Posts: 27086
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Male: Yes
Favorite series: All of them
Alignment: Neutral
My boom: stick
Quote: "Are you the new monarch, or are you just a pawn of fate?" - Emerald Herald
Type: ISFJ Protector
Location: Yami ni umare, yami ni kisu
Contact:

Re: I have question/theory on escape and enter

Post by takenoko » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:04 pm

Nah, I don't think that'd work since that'd mean the Go-Busters killed the other kids. Enter and Escape probably just feel like Messiah's subordinates since they're his creations.

Blazordra
01
Posts: 24
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:40 pm
Male: Yes
Favorite series: Boukenger
2ndFavoriteSeries: Akibaranger
Dreamy: Yumeria Moegi
Favorite Actor?: Suzuka Morita
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Quote: Here's to us (Drink)
Here's to those like us (Drink)
Dang few (Drink)
And there all dead (Drink)

Re: I have question/theory on escape and enter

Post by Blazordra » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:21 pm

Not a bad thought process, However Ep. 37 showed that Escape might have deeper attraction to there creator.

In Enter's case however, I think he call's Messiah majesty as a snide insult. It's my opinion that he's always wanted his creators power for himself.

Wolfmano
Gao
Posts: 27
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:10 am
Male: Yes

Re: I have question/theory on escape and enter

Post by Wolfmano » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:53 pm

but doesn't leave the question on whose personalities are fuse together that make up enter and escape who they are?

User avatar
Phoenix512
Rising to the Top
Rising to the Top
Posts: 6538
Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:29 pm

Re: I have question/theory on escape and enter

Post by Phoenix512 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:31 am

If you take the Freud ideals of the id, ego, and super-ego, Escape is basically Messiah's id while Enter is the ego. They are a combination of personalities with both conscious and unconsciousness desires. When you have a bunch of unconscious desires that make up you and basically act them out, who knows which desire goes with what personality. So Escape calling Messiah "Papa" could be just one person calling their father "Papa" in their unconscious desires.
Image

User avatar
takenoko
Team Baron
Team Baron
Posts: 27086
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Male: Yes
Favorite series: All of them
Alignment: Neutral
My boom: stick
Quote: "Are you the new monarch, or are you just a pawn of fate?" - Emerald Herald
Type: ISFJ Protector
Location: Yami ni umare, yami ni kisu
Contact:

Re: I have question/theory on escape and enter

Post by takenoko » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:57 am

Huh, that's a pretty interesting theory. Did you come up with that on your own?

Enter is definitely ego, the realist. He makes the plans and he knows that he has to put off instant gratification for long-term benefits.

Escape is pure id. She's impulsive. Her motivations are just to do what makes her feel good. Id is also the libido, and Escape is an avatar represented by a sexy lady.

How does the super ego fit in all this? Messiah itself isn't a good fit since super ego is the critic and moral role.

Hmmm, come to think about it. Since Escape's appearance, have we seen Messiah and Enter arguing the way they did at the beginning of the show? It'd be interesting if Messiah loses his id characteristics because they're all in Escape now.

User avatar
Kogashi
Yggdrasill Dog
Yggdrasill Dog
Posts: 3120
Joined: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:33 am
Male: Yes
Favorite series: Gaim
2ndFavoriteSeries: Shinkenger
Alignment: Neutral Good
My boom: Deadly Premonition
Quote: Man should not live on carbohydrates alone, complex or otherwise.
Type: ENFJ Teacher
Location: San Francisco, CA
Contact:

Re: I have question/theory on escape and enter

Post by Kogashi » Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:16 am

The creators, they'd be the closest thing to a super ego in this equation I think.
READING TOO MUCH INTO THINGS![/size] including random over analysis rants on pop culture, and Tokusatsu series reviews, if Toei gets off my back for long enough. Also follow on twitter @R2TMIT, or facebook.com/R2TMIT

User avatar
Phoenix512
Rising to the Top
Rising to the Top
Posts: 6538
Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:29 pm

Re: I have question/theory on escape and enter

Post by Phoenix512 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:54 am

From what I read, the super-ego is part of the ego which governs the self-reflection and judgmental processes. So the super-ego could be Enter as well but the creators could be it as well. I don't recall Enter and Messiah arguing since Escape was created because she would do the things to please Messiah while Enter could do his plans.
Image

User avatar
Kogashi
Yggdrasill Dog
Yggdrasill Dog
Posts: 3120
Joined: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:33 am
Male: Yes
Favorite series: Gaim
2ndFavoriteSeries: Shinkenger
Alignment: Neutral Good
My boom: Deadly Premonition
Quote: Man should not live on carbohydrates alone, complex or otherwise.
Type: ENFJ Teacher
Location: San Francisco, CA
Contact:

Re: I have question/theory on escape and enter

Post by Kogashi » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:17 am

The Super-Ego from what little psych I remember, basically tells the Ego why what the Id wants is bad or if it is bad.
READING TOO MUCH INTO THINGS![/size] including random over analysis rants on pop culture, and Tokusatsu series reviews, if Toei gets off my back for long enough. Also follow on twitter @R2TMIT, or facebook.com/R2TMIT

Post Reply

Return to “Tokumei Sentai Go-Busters”