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KR Wizard 04 released

Post by Lunagel » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:10 am

JESUS CHRIST THERE'S A CAT SIDHE GET IN THE CAR

Rather expected the gaijin to get played for laughs, but overall it was handled pretty well. Shunpei's legs looked like he fell in a pit of sharp lego. I can only imagine the pain he's going to have pulling alllll of those bandaids off.

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Post by takenoko » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:24 am

I dunno, did they really need to cast the black guy as the lazy, loud, kind of dumb, complaining monster? I just don't get why he had to have so many negative traits.

I liked seeing a bit more of Koyomi's personality. Good to see Rinko pulling her weight too.

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Post by Kairiki » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:33 am

I was actually having this conversation with butyoumight and other Tumblr peeps the other day (as I seem to be one of the resident black toku fans). I'm not seeing anything too bad about the way Cat Sidhe is portrayed, but then that's taking into account a different history of race relations in Japan and so on. It's a bit more long-winded than that, but in the end all I just want to do is pet Cat Sidhe~

Also, Koyomi's a whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!

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Post by takenoko » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:42 am

I'm not saying that this is the worst portrayal of a black guy that I've seen in Japanese media. It just seemed like it was unnecessarily negative. Why couldn't he have just been a regular dude?

Actually, there are a lot of black toku fans. I really don't think they're all that rare. Maybe some kind of statistical gathering venture would be interesting.

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Post by Kairiki » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:53 am

That's true as well. Still, I guess tomorrow's episode will tell? I hope he stays around, but probably not.

Also, yeah, it would be fairly interesting to find out how toku fandom is broken down into demographics...

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Post by Go-On Macaroni » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:04 pm

Only thing that really bugged me during this episode was Shunpei; I liked him at first (and, near the end of this one) but, mostly during the dish rag scene. Koyomi's face said everything about it, imo.

Also about Sidhe being a black guy, it never really bugged me. Maybe because I would've laughed the same even if a white, Indian or, humanoid pig monster guy had done the role. :lol:
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Post by XerBlade » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:05 pm

Your poll assumes all toku fans are Earth natives. Kengo and Tsurugi are feeling left out now.
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Post by MarcosPMA » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:17 pm

I'm Hispanic....not sure what option I should choose in the poll :/
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Re: KR Wizard 04 released

Post by Catastrophe » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:21 pm

Haruto: I need to fill up your magic. Just place your hand right here...

I hope this OOM thing isn't used to often as an excuse to extend the arc.

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Re: KR Wizard 04 released

Post by TheTeddy » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:46 pm

Another great episode.

Few points:

-Koyomi is a doll? That's going to be nice to find out more about.
-What is with Shunpeis' socks?
-I like when Cait Sihde suggests the Phoenix or Medusa could do it, how Phoenix is all "I know right?"


And last point, the elephnat in the room. Cait Sihde is a faery creature from Celtic mythology. It is said to resemble a large black cat. So they got a large black man to play a large black cat.

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Re: KR Wizard 04 released

Post by butyoumight » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:59 pm

takenoko wrote:I'm not saying that this is the worst portrayal of a black guy that I've seen in Japanese media. It just seemed like it was unnecessarily negative. Why couldn't he have just been a regular dude?

Actually, there are a lot of black toku fans. I really don't think they're all that rare. Maybe some kind of statistical gathering venture would be interesting.
Well, the way I look at it is that he's not lazy and complaining because he's black and happens to be a cat monster.

He's a monster based specifically on the Cat Sidhe, which are in the mythology are black cats. Cats are universally seen as lazy and complain a lot, who generally go their own way and don't like taking orders.

Hence: Cat Sidhe the lazy black cat = ...Cat Sidhe, the lazy black cat.

I really thought it was kind of clever, using someone black instead of designing a mostly black cat kaijin that might have invited unnecessary comparisons to Kazari, for example.
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Post by Strykor » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:04 pm

How much you all want to bet that Koyomi and Medusa are either siblings or... one person split in half?

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Re: KR Wizard 04 released

Post by ViRGE » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:11 pm

Catastrophe wrote:Haruto: I need to fill up your magic. Just place your hand right here...
Haha, my thought exactly. That looked far more wrong than it should have. :lol:

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Re: KR Wizard 04 released

Post by Phoenix512 » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:31 pm

I added the Hispanic option to the poll. I don't really have a problem with a black guy being Cait Sidhe. I think take's problem is probably related to how black people are portrayed in Japan which seems that's the case.

As for Koyomi, I wonder if she was a human or just artificially created but I'm interested to know.
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Re: KR Wizard 04 released

Post by Revorse » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:56 pm

Another nice episode. The action felt a bit 'slower' than the first 3, but that's alright. I'm really interested in Koyomi, I want to know all about her.
Cat Sidhe is alright, but after Cait Sith from FFVII I pretty much hate anything with a name relating to Cat Sidhe.
Being black myself I don't really see anything wrong with him. I chuckled when Haruto mentioned he was fast, but that's cause I think some stereotypes are funny and make a good joke.
I wonder how magic is restored, it's probably through sleeping and eating I would assume.

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