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Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by TorchWood » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:41 pm

Is it my imagination, but beyond the cameo in the Forze movie, neither Wizard or Beast have been called or called themselves "Kamen Rider". It has always been either "mage" or "Wizard", but "Kamen Rider" is forbidden beyond the title.

Anyone else notice this?
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Re: Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by takenoko » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:49 pm

Could be, there are some Rider shows where they never use the Kamen Rider part. Let's see.

Up to episode 7, they never use Kamen Rider Wizard except in the preview for the next episode.

In episode 8 they use Kamen Rider Wizard in the opening narration.

...annnd, they don't use Kamen Rider Wizard again except in the next episode preview part. So they never say Kamen Rider in the show itself.

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Re: Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by Dengar » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:30 am

This happens pretty often in Kamen Rider actually.

Kiva used the word "Rider System" a total number of 1 time. The word "Kamen Rider" was never mentioned at all.

In Kabuto, they just used "Rider" all of the time, and the system was called "Masked Rider System", in English.

I'm fairly sure Faiz never used the word either.


OOO only used the phrase during the movies, and the Kamen Rider Movie arc. Oh, and once to refer to the Birth system.

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Re: Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by locuas » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:21 am

Kuuga was never refered as Kamen rider, neither, he was always either Kuuga, No.4 or Yuusuke.

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Re: Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by Dengar » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:54 am

Same for Agito (not even G3 was called a Kamen Rider).

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Re: Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by chcoman123 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:16 pm

Series In which they were called a rider:

All the Showa TV Series: Yes
Showa Movies:
J- Yes
ZO - Yes
Shin - No

Heisei:
Kuuga - No
Agito - No
Ryuki - Yes
Faiz - No
Blade - Unsure
Hibiki - No
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Re: Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by [kuronogantzryu] » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:33 pm

tvtropes is a good place to check out which series does and why.
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Re: Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by Go-On Macaroni » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:42 pm

chcoman123 wrote:Blade - Unsure
Blade did considering there was this whole episode about Kenzaki figuring out what it meant to be a Rider and him saying he'll fight as one, before he got King Form.

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Re: Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by takenoko » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:16 pm

First episode of Blade has Chalice saying Kamen Rider several times too before freaking out, I think?

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Re: Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by chcoman123 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:42 pm

Go-On Macaroni wrote:
chcoman123 wrote:Blade - Unsure
Blade did considering there was this whole episode about Kenzaki figuring out what it meant to be a Rider and him saying he'll fight as one, before he got King Form.
Thanks. I had no clue because I've never watched Blade. It's the only Heisei series I haven't watched one whole episode of. I really need to watch it.
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Re: Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by Dengar » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:23 am

takenoko wrote:First episode of Blade has Chalice saying Kamen Rider several times too before freaking out, I think?
Not to mention everyone was all surprised that incompetent reporter guy knew so much about Kamen Riders.

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Re: Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by Kuchiri » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:22 am

Kiva also had a lot of 'Rider System' talk going on about IXA.

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Re: Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by Dengar » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:09 pm

i did mention it, but the word was used only once in the whole series.

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Re: Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by TorchWood » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:34 pm

I've only watched Decade, W, Forze, and Wizard, thus I was surprised that Kamen Rider was never mentioned beyond the Forze movie. Again, what raised the eyebrow was the puzzled look.
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Re: Never called a Kamen Rider?

Post by kyoichikiller90 » Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:55 am

Dengar wrote:
In Kabuto, they just used "Rider" all of the time, and the system was called "Masked Rider System", in English.
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I recalled in episode where Yaguruma adressed "Kamen Rider Drake" to Daisuke when he try to kill Mamiya Reina. Only Drake was called Kamen Rider.

Wizard calling himself as mahoutsukai ( Mage/ Magic User/ Magician) similar case with Hibiki where they called themselves as Oni(Demon/ Sonic Strike Rider/ Ongeki Rider)

Kuuga, Agito, and Faiz never called Kamen Rider.

In Kamen Rider Seigi no Keifu video game PS2 Agito was learn the region about Kamen Rider when he was called "Kamen Rider" by Shocker Kaijin. It was post canon to original homage of Kamen Rider.
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