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Post by Enter the Meteor » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:24 am

Dengar wrote: And again: This all wouldn't have happened if White Wizard did not support Wizard.
If The White Wizard supporting Haruto did not happen, we would have nothing to type about because there would be no show. Lizardman would kill Haurto right after the Sabbath took place.

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Re: I have the Plot figured out! (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

Post by locuas » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:38 am

if they were one and the same, then guy did he bother to show sometimes as wiseman and others as white wizard?(aside for, maybe, lazy writing) and at least once he showed himself as wiseman without the other phantoms around.
second,why was kerberos spying wiseman when wiseman created the blue stone? if white wizard was wiseman, why did he send rinko to take the stone, when he could just send it to them just like he did with the red one?
third, why was white wizard surprised at seeing Beast when wiseman just explained about him the previous episode?
if you say "wiseman is white wizard's phantom and they have split personality" okay, that i can buy. but that they are one and the same? i don't think it can be.

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locuas wrote:if they were one and the same, then guy did he bother to show sometimes as wiseman and others as white wizard?(aside for, maybe, lazy writing) and at least once he showed himself as wiseman without the other phantoms around.
second,why was kerberos spying wiseman when wiseman created the blue stone? if white wizard was wiseman, why did he send rinko to take the stone, when he could just send it to them just like he did with the red one?
third, why was white wizard surprised at seeing Beast when wiseman just explained about him the previous episode?
if you say "wiseman is white wizard's phantom and they have split personality" okay, that i can buy. but that they are one and the same? i don't think it can be.
1. Well, it would make the most sense to stay in character at the hide out.

2. Black Cerberus lead Koyomi to Wiseman's laid because of the fact that Wiseman had wanted the stone to be taken. The White Wizard's White Garuda dropped of the Flame Dragon stones. Black Cerberus I would say was not spying, merely waiting for his commend to go. He may have been told to wait after the stone comes out of his master before he takes off.

3. Regarding Beast, The White Wizard had to stay in character.

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Re: I have the Plot figured out! (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

Post by Dengar » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:33 am

It's all too contradictory. Although contradiction is nothing new to a kids' show, I won't buy it until it actually happens.

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Post by locuas » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:55 pm

Enter the Meteor wrote:
3. Regarding Beast, The White Wizard had to stay in character.
why would he do that? in what way would him being aware of beast's existence before then affect his plans?

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locuas wrote:
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3. Regarding Beast, The White Wizard had to stay in character.
why would he do that? in what way would him being aware of beast's existence before then affect his plans?
Before, he was just concerned with Haurto evolving into All Dragon, and then he would get the gold Ring to use on him. Once, Beast came in, he has to make adjustments to his plan. Maybe he overhead Kousuke call Haurto his rival, which would mean that they stay away and may battle each other. The White Wizard may have wanted to use that against Haurto by giving him All Dragon to finish off Beast, then do the gold Ring. But, his plan failed when he realized the Beast was with Wizard, helping him.

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Re: I have the Plot figured out! (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

Post by locuas » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:34 pm

he was giving haruto the stones before beast appeared, and he warned beast about the dangers of his belt.

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locuas wrote:he was giving haruto the stones before beast appeared, and he warned beast about the dangers of his belt.
I know. "Warned" is such a weak word there, how about "Told". Wiseman was concerned about Beast interfering and gave Medusa the okay to trick Beast, so he could have his way with him. But, that failed.

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Re: I have the Plot figured out! (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

Post by Kogashi » Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:07 pm

... I'm just not seeing how those pics are any kind of 'proof'... They don't really look all that the same to me.
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Re: I have the Plot figured out! (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

Post by Dengar » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:24 am

And even if they do turn out to be the same dude, there's no way I'm seeing it be the way you think it is.

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Re: I have the Plot figured out! (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

Post by Lunagel » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:12 am

That silhouette could be anyone. It might even be a girl. Wouldn't be the first time they pulled the gender reversal thing.

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Re: I have the Plot figured out! (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

Post by Dengar » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:26 am

Oh my god! I have it all figured out! It's Nitou's nanna!

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Post by Enter the Meteor » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:51 am

Dengar wrote:Oh my god! I have it all figured out! It's Nitou's nanna!
It could be Nitou's mana, but how would they force it out of him? Would Wiseman just suck it up from Kousuke's Beast Driver? I doubt that Manticore, Weretiger, Spriggan, one of the weaker forum of Bogy and Argos would count as "...many...". Now, if he eats Medusa or my beloved Sora along with about two to three more, then I could see that as a ton of mana. But, the main problem I have with this is that Beast Chimera eats the mana straight away, so how would they get it out of him? The mana does not just sit there, he uses for his life. Maybe once he eats a Phantom, then they could go into action, but I doubt it. Maybe Sora could steal his belt?
Lunagel wrote:That silhouette could be anyone. It might even be a girl. Wouldn't be the first time they pulled the gender reversal thing.
There is NO WAY that silhouette is a female. That is Wiseman in his human form, otherwise known as Fueki, I bet.

@anyone: Type what does not look like Fueki.

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Re: I have the Plot figured out! (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

Post by locuas » Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:58 am

the silhouette is too ambiguous to say who it is. the only reason we know it is a guy is because of the voice. but a silhouette is not enough to say who it is.

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Post by Enter the Meteor » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:35 pm

locuas wrote:the silhouette is too ambiguous to say who it is. the only reason we know it is a guy is because of the voice. but a silhouette is not enough to say who it is.
For real!? That is obviously a male, no questions! How in the world could a female be that silhouette? From what we have seen, Fueki is the only person we are able to infer.

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