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Re: Kamen Rider Movie Taisen Ultimatum Released

Post by Kamen Rider Ookalf » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:23 pm

Dengar wrote:So... The picture he dropped was a picture he made with his class, not the same one that was dropped by his future self.

I mean, any other explanation is ridiculous.
If it was one he had (presumably recently) taken with his class, then why did it already look years old?

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Re: Kamen Rider Movie Taisen Ultimatum Released

Post by Kogashi » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:53 pm

The picture he dropped he got from his future self cause he would later make the picture in the future once everything, presumably, was solved and everyone in his class were buds. Yes time wise it makes no sense but time does not progress in a strictly linear progression from one point to the next. In a much more abstract metachronical sense, it's more of a massive, large, ball of wibbly wobbly... timey wimey... stuff.
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Re: Kamen Rider Movie Taisen Ultimatum Released

Post by Phoenix512 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:26 pm

You guys are really over-analyzing all of this. I suggest everyone just walk away because you're getting nowhere with this. It's just a small part of the movie that doesn't need to be over-analyzed.
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Re: Kamen Rider Movie Taisen Ultimatum Released

Post by locuas » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:28 pm

Kogashi wrote:The picture he dropped he got from his future self cause he would later make the picture in the future once everything, presumably, was solved and everyone in his class were buds. Yes time wise it makes no sense but time does not progress in a strictly linear progression from one point to the next. In a much more abstract metachronical sense, it's more of a massive, large, ball of wibbly wobbly... timey wimey... stuff.
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Re: Kamen Rider Movie Taisen Ultimatum Released

Post by Dengar » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:31 pm

Kamen Rider Ookalf wrote:If it was one he had (presumably recently) taken with his class, then why did it already look years old?
Any other explanation is ridiculous.

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Re: Kamen Rider Movie Taisen Ultimatum Released

Post by archer9234 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:43 pm

To quote captain Janeway "Effect can precede cause, when dealing with time travel". This is how you should look at it. The photo was a predetermined paradox. It had to happen at this point in time. Because it set in motion Gen's future life. The photo told him he had to become a teacher and would run into these kids (he doesn't know the circumstances, so the movies integrity is okay). And must make this photo. Even though the photo he drops in the past has no linking origin. It still created itself. The photo taken by him, in present day never gets lost in time. The old photo did. Which in turn was created by the new photo. That point loops forever. No origin point created.

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Re: Kamen Rider Movie Taisen Ultimatum Released

Post by Dengar » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:27 pm

That is ridiculous. The photo he dropped had to have been the one he took himself. For it to be the same photo that he found that was dropped by his future self is impossible. I agree that effect can precede cause, but matter cannot become itself, that's ridiculous.

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Re: Kamen Rider Movie Taisen Ultimatum Released

Post by dancercotillion » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:25 am

The photo could be left over from the original time travel in which it was taken before Gentarou travelled back through time, a history which is slightly differrent from the one the loop creates; it could be a hundred years old by the time we ever see it, because it just keeps looping through those five years over and over.
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Re: Kamen Rider Movie Taisen Ultimatum Released

Post by Lunagel » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:31 am

The main problem is there's no entry point there. Gentarou never goes back to the past after taking the picture, so it can't go back in time. Unless maybe there's a movie we're missing where he goes back into the past to save the future. Kamen Rider Doctor Who?

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Re: Kamen Rider Movie Taisen Ultimatum Released

Post by Dengar » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:40 pm

Which only leaves two options: Either Gentarou made a photo offscreen that looks exactly like that one, or the writers don't know how to write.

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Re: Kamen Rider Movie Taisen Ultimatum Released

Post by locuas » Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:49 pm

i chose the third option...At some point Gentarou became a companion of the doctor and it was the doctor who made it happen.

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Re: Kamen Rider Movie Taisen Ultimatum Released

Post by KR_FIA » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:15 am

You guys are over-analyzing on a single photo. What about that one about a kid's friend being his father in a previous movie?

I only have the anime version of Inazuman vs Kikaider as a reference, but it seems like Inazuman has that bruiser and nimble friends of his here.

All those leg shots. Is this really a Kamen Rider show?

The reveal for Poitrine is hilarious.

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Re: Kamen Rider Movie Taisen Ultimatum Released

Post by locuas » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:36 am

KR_FIA wrote:You guys are over-analyzing on a single photo. What about that one about a kid's friend being his father in a previous movie?
which one?

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Re: Kamen Rider Movie Taisen Ultimatum Released

Post by Phoenix512 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:31 am

He's talking about Let's Go Kamen Rider.
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