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Yeah, this movie was decent, I'd rank it over the OOO movie if I was to compare the Neo-Heisei movies.

So, Ohma used Koyomi to recreate the world so that there are only Mages, so he can later turn them all into Phantoms & rule the world. But here are my questions:
A) Why didn't Ohma just make the world so they were all phantoms, instead of doing it the hard way & making them all Mages?
B) Where did he get the Ring & Driver in the 1st place? Did Fueki give them to him? Or did Ohma steal them?

Also it bugs me in movies or TV shows that have an alternate universe plot, where it ends with everyone in the alternate universe being erased. Could you imagine how scary that would be? You're just going about your day & then all-of-a-sudden everyone around you starts disappearing & reality begins to collapse before your very eyes! But everyone was gonna turn into a Phantom anyway so I guess that's fine, though Haruto was pretty nonchalant about destroying everything.

I'm guessing there'll get an explanation as to where the finish strike ring came from in the DC, but we'll see.
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Oooh! My favorite Rider is back in action. Really that's what hit me the most. To see that Wizard flair.
The movie is good. Nothing I felt was ground breaking. The amount of spells in MagicLand was pretty cool. They were just whipping spells out left and right. And buying spells from a store? Haha reminds me of buying materia in FFVII or any JRPG really.

I enjoyed seeing the 3 "main" phantoms from the series fighting together. Kinda wish they weren't just there to get beat up though.

Thanatos Vessel....creepy. I think something like that belongs in Garo.

The scene when they were stoning Haruto I wonder what he was going to do before Koyomi popped up. Looks like he was getting pretty pissed.

And like was said if Maya just a bit more story I could have cared more. Something that would have made the scene in the end with him and his family have more of an impact.

And Infinity Dragon?! A form? Hell no. It's just a quick powered up attack. And Dragon's gold accents staying gold? If they had the same sort of design/color as Infinity it would look leagues better. Now I'm anxious to see Haruto in the Gaim x Wizard movie.

Those KRGS. ^_^ I've seen the video before but it sure is nice to have it subtitled and in my collection. Go get 'em is still my favorite song from the girls. Their singing seems to improve with time...but the ladies aren't the best dancers.
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You can thank Devgryphon for the music video. I totally didn't know it existed till he brought it up and did most the work on it.
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Wizard definitely put way too much money in costume design only to have a few costumes never in battles. I mean we had Wiseman in the TV series who did next to nothing in terms of action and then we had this weird Gold Phantom who shows up for probably five seconds in this movie. It would have been awesome if after the belt was broken, the rest of the fight was done with the Phantom.

I thought there would be a Gaim tease...Unless they purposely did the two extra episodes of Wizard because they didn't write one in the movie.
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Takenoko: The Wiki link on the front page for the movie is the wrong link. It's the Magica Land URL rather than the movie's URL.
takenoko wrote:Maybe it's the distance from the TV series (Seeing as how I'm watching the movie months after the TV series ended) but I enjoyed this movie a lot.
Weirdly enough I find myself in the opposite camp, but for the same reason.

Seeing the Wizard movie half-way through what has so far been an awesome Gaim has served to highlight just how banal Wizard was. The protagonist was boring and the antagonist wasn't much better. The movie for its part does nothing to fix these issues, though admittedly Toei's movies are more miss than hit.

AUs are just hard to take seriously or be interested in, because in the end you get to hit the reset button. In the meantime I can't help but feel that starting off immediately with Wizard fighting Sorcerer is the wrong way to go. It makes the viewer feel like they've missed something, and indeed we never get an explanation for where Sorcerer comes from or why he can use magic.

I will however say that the action scenes are done well, as usual. Wizard's writing drags it down, while Toei's stunt teams can put on a showy battle no matter the plot.

And poor Koyomi. What is it with the recent trend of dedicated victims in Kamen Rider? :?
dat20091 wrote: The finale was really weird as Infinity didn't do much except for the infinity dragon kick strike, he literally just went into infinity, he had the infinity axe/sword but did nothing with it and it just went to OH WE'RE BOTH GOING TO USE OUR FINISHING MOVE NOW
Also the fact Haruto had infinity the whole time but never used it until the ending
This is a common problem in all Rider/Sentai productions. If you give the hero an uber power-up, logic dictates you should use it immediately. But for the purposes of the plot that can't happen, as either you resolve the conflict right away, or are backed into a corner of explaining why the superpower didn't work before but works in the end.

That said, Wizard hasn't handled it as well as some of the past movies. I suspect this was because the movie didn't introduce a new form, it only used a new attack (Finish Strike) for all of 10 seconds. The previous movies have been able to avert the problem by not having the superpower come into existence until the end when it's needed.
Kuchiri wrote:Wizard definitely put way too much money in costume design only to have a few costumes never in battles. [...] and then we had this weird Gold Phantom who shows up for probably five seconds in this movie. It would have been awesome if after the belt was broken, the rest of the fight was done with the Phantom.
That's a good point. The phantom form was a blink-and-you'll-miss-it event. Assuming this wasn't butchered in editing, I wonder if it was a conflict in goals; the plot required a phantom-based villain while the production crew wanted mage vs. mage?
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Fixed, thanks for letting me know.

Funnily, the Phantom form appears quite frequently in the Net Movies. No suit ever goes to waste at Toei, I guess.
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I heard MAYO FISHING! Even mayoes appears on every mayo tree. And mayoes out of WATER!

And I get the favorite part where Haruto and Ohma fight (except for Maya)!
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takenoko wrote:Funnily, the Phantom form appears quite frequently in the Net Movies. No suit ever goes to waste at Toei, I guess.
Really? I wasn't watching out for the phantom form in particular in those movies, but I don't recall seeing it at all...
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He's the main antagonist in the Kamen Rider Mage/Shunpei sections. Wait what? The suits are different. They're both Phantom Khepri though...

Edit: Okay, I guess I was confused. I just assumed that Khepri would be the main Phantom in this movie. I guess Sorcerer's alter ego is called Drake?

Looking it up, Khepri is just some monster that attacks the town people and is put down by Rinko's group.
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I actually really liked this movie. Nice Gaim foreshadowing with the "This is my showtime now!" bit.
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I thought the plot overlapped the TV show waaaay too much.

Nitou's actor probably loved this movie, his character had a much more savvy and competent personality ... mayo fishing aside.
Gaim has just raised the bar for plot for me, I cringed so much through this movie.
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The only complain I tend to have for summer's movies (and others Toku movies) is that the plot is not linked to the series, except for Den-O and Double. For example, for this one, it would be nice is Sorcerer showed up in the actual series, and then disappear one episode, where the movie would take place. Sorcerer should have been Fueki's partner for his project, and then betrayed him for his own.

Except for that, I have no complain about this movie. I just wish Mayu would have been there too, or Fueki, but either way, it was a good movie, but I'm one of those people that rarely hate a season, and I didn't hate Wizard. But it's true that Gaim is better than Wizard. I just take things for what they are and not what I think they should have been.
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I thought it was pretty decent for a KR movie. The little bits of comedy were cute, and Beast remains one of my favorite KRs. But I would agree that the final battle was kinda blah. I was expecting the flower ring to be used to give Haruto a powered up form, not that he'd just randomly have it. The only thing I've never liked about the fights in Wizard was all the flips and twirls and sword-flailing. It tries to give the impression of action when nothing is actually happening. It's tolerable, but it's not something I want to see in "The Final Battle".
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This movie reminded me why Wizard is the worst series yet. Like what many have said, this series is flashy but bland. The movie is a waste of time and at the end of the day most of the characters from Magicland(SP?) never existed so the interaction with them was for nothing. And the purpose of the Socceror is to dis-powered the people from this non-existent world...
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