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KR Wizard 51 released

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Wiki: http://wiki.tvnihon.com/wiki/Kamen_Rider_Wizard_51

For discussing the series as a whole, please use this thread:
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I guess I liked that ending more than I thought I would. To give context, I was expecting Haruto to fight Gremlin and bring back Koyomi. Which would have been the death stroke after a series of questionable story decisions. So it's kind of a relief that he was just getting back the Philosopher's Stone.

I forgot about the other mages, so it was pretty great to see them rise up and transform and fight together.

But then Gremlin knocked them all down and I remembered how useless they are in the eyes of the series. My disappointment from this moment is a pretty apt representation for the series as a whole. I always get excited about the aspects that the creators of Wizard seem to have accidentally made exciting and interesting to me. Only to get slapped down and told "No! You must care about Haruto, Koyomi, and Gremlin's storyline!"

I also thought powered-up Gremlin was just a betrayal of his stupid wish to be human again. But him attacking people to get their magical energy fits with his motivations, so that made sense. Plus I guess even monsters can want to be human. Like the short explanation that Gremlin gave for wanting to be human in this episode really does fit. Fueki forced him to become something that he didn't want to become, so he wants to reverse that. I just feel like this would have worked a few episodes earlier, because it's kind of good to know what a villain's motivations are. I also liked the small touch where he loses it when Haruto calls him Gremlin instead of Sora. I guess he really just hates being a Phantom.

Poor donut guys. They get one new customer that isn't a Phantom, and she gets blown away with their little cart. Is that... is that the "check your fly" girl from Super Hero Otsu?

Remember kids. Guns are useless. Try punching, using a rubber cone, or a rod instead!

What ring did Gremlin smash?

Chief, why are you in this episode?

Dressing up as a farmer = Ring making? Well... at least Shunpei finally got a job.

Oh man, Mayu's speech is so rad. I hope someone recuts Wizard so that it focuses on her

Mayotsukai? Fuck yoooooooooooooooooooooooou

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Re: KR Wizard 51 released

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takenoko wrote:What ring did Gremlin smash?
EDIT: Actually that may have been the Please ring?
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Chat log for the final viewing party:
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[09:05] <Lunagel> oh goodie, take subbed that
[09:05] <Lunagel> I didn't wanna XD
[09:05] <Macaroni> that was.. odd
[09:05] <Lunagel> cocokun~
[09:05] <takenoko> you sub it!
[09:05] <Phoenix512> I swear Luna and take have different tastes of CMs
[09:05] <Slowking> new sad music for the introduction
[09:06] <Slowking> luna subs what she buys!
[09:06] <Lunagel> that's good, it means we get most of the cms subbed between the two of us!
[09:06] <Lunagel> khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
[09:06] <takenoko> sad music tells you to be sad
[09:06] <Phoenix512> I'm watching the fully typeset version
[09:06] <Macaroni> I still like that "no limit" CM
[09:06] <PHurricane> so, that didn't quite make him human, did it
[09:07] <Lunagel> false advertising!
[09:07] <Phoenix512> it's Super Gremlin
[09:07] <Slowking> yeah i thought if he used it he'd become human
[09:07] <takenoko> Gremlins 2?
[09:07] <Miyagishin> lol
[09:07] <takenoko> it's got lady genes!
[09:07] <Lunagel> don't get water on gremlin!
[09:07] <Slowking> also the form doesn't look all that menacing for a final villain
[09:07] <takenoko> I think it's a nice design
[09:07] <Lunagel> it's kinda a pity that they won't get to use it for more than one episode
[09:07] <Slowking> well duh rinko
[09:07] <PHurricane> there's always the movies
[09:08] <Phoenix512> sure you could, Nitou...
[09:08] <Miyagishin> That music...
[09:08] <Lunagel> yay! pajamas!
[09:08] <Slowking> i like how the logos comes onscreen
[09:08] <Slowking> logo
[09:08] <Slowking> luna buy me one of those~]
[09:09] <Slowking> luckyu!!
[09:09] <Lunagel> impossible!
[09:09] <Phoenix512> Slowking wants all three Dino Sentai pajamas
[09:09] <Macaroni> Gasha-pyon!
[09:09] <Slowking> nah i want luckyuro's hat
[09:09] <PHurricane> 100!
[09:09] <Slowking> although if the pajamas come with kyouryuuger keys[09:09] <Slowking> then why not
[09:09] <Phoenix512> Luna would rather keep the Luckyrou hat if she got one
[09:09] <Lunagel> damn straight
[09:09] <Slowking> then she better get a few to give us all one!
[09:10] <Lunagel> oh wow
[09:10] <Lunagel> that hair
[09:10] <PHurricane> lol
[09:10] <Phoenix512> Nitou is forever Mayo
[09:10] <Miyagishin> NOOOO
[09:10] <Lunagel> XD I thought she was yelling at Owner's hair
[09:10] <Miyagishin> the cart
[09:10] <Slowking> NOOOOOOOO
[09:10] <Slowking> KABA-CHAN'S CART
[09:10] <Macaroni> worst crime of all - doughnut murder
[09:10] <PHurricane> first sign you're in a finale - blowing up your sets
[09:10] <Phoenix512> not even the donut cart in Fresh got destroyed
[09:11] <Lunagel> good question!
[09:11] <Phoenix512> *Precure
[09:11] <Lunagel> wait
[09:11] <Slowking> oooh
[09:11] <Slowking> so he needs to restart another sabbath
[09:11] <Slowking> that's why he can't use the stone atm to turn human
[09:11] <Lunagel> so he needs to kill lots of humans to become human?
[09:11] <Slowking> yeah
[09:11] <Slowking> how selfish!
[09:12] <Phoenix512> it's definitely FMA
[09:12] <Lunagel> HI SAWAI MIYUU
[09:12] <Lunagel> you're looking distinctly less pregnant now!
[09:12] <takenoko> hi luna!
[09:12] <Slowking> lol
[09:13] <Phoenix512> I like how Wajima try to deny Haruto that Gremlin was attacking the people
[09:14] <Slowking> lol
[09:14] <PHurricane> I like how they kept the camera away from Haruto's face that whole scene
[09:14] <Slowking> and then he's confused about haruto trying to leave
[09:14] <Lunagel> this is a really random question, but what is with that dress in the shop?
[09:14] <Slowking> oooh some gun firing
[09:14] <Lunagel> it bothers me every time I see it
[09:14] <Lunagel> cause it's not an antique
[09:14] <Phoenix512> what dress
[09:14] <Miyagishin> damn that cop got super messed up
[09:14] <Phoenix512> Shunpei is doing the Three Stooges thing
[09:15] <takenoko> maybe it belongs to wajima's wife
[09:15] <Slowking> hey rinko, you remembered you had a gun?!
[09:15] <Macaroni> Rinko really should've learned from Ichijo and upgraded their guns
[09:15] <Slowking> indeed mac[09:15] <PHurricane> man, I miss the Rinko from the start of the series
[09:15] <Lunagel> rinko, that's not an automatic!
[09:15] <Miyagishin> I like how her punching does more than a bullet
[09:15] <Phoenix512> Department 0 doesn't have a tech department
[09:15] <Phoenix512> cops in Japan don't carry automatics
[09:15] <Slowking> ahahaha nitou's hairstyle
[09:15] <Lunagel> nitou's poor hair!
[09:15] <Macaroni> then, they needed one
[09:15] <Slowking> ahahaha
[09:16] <Phoenix512> at least they have guns compared to the British police force
[09:16] <Phoenix512> so Nitou's hair was supported by magic
[09:16] <Lunagel> if they really wanted to have a big climactic scene they really should've spent more time building up yuzuru and yamamoto
[09:17] <Phoenix512> probably in the future DC, Luna
[09:17] <PHurricane> no dancing for Mayu today
[09:17] <Lunagel> hey, she didn't do her stupid dance!
[09:17] <Slowking> yeah!
[09:17] <Slowking> i like the three mage henshin
[09:17] <Phoenix512> but she said her catchphrase
[09:17] <PHurricane> ...did they ever explain why the Mages have tails?
[09:17] <Lunagel> if only the suits weren't beige...
[09:17] <Lunagel> cause of Dragon?
[09:17] <Slowking> why special for mayu?
[09:17] <Slowking> and no gravity?[09:18] <Phoenix512> because Gravity wouldn't destroy
[09:18] <Lunagel> well that was quick
[09:18] <Slowking> yeah that makes sense i guess
[09:18] <Phoenix512> it's Super Gremlin
[09:18] <Slowking> am i the only one not convinced of gremlin's power atm?
[09:18] <Lunagel> not just you
[09:18] <Macaroni> thirded
[09:18] <PHurricane> nice parallel to first episode there
[09:18] <takenoko> parallel?
[09:19] <PHurricane> Haruto's entrance
[09:19] <Lunagel> the curved bullets
[09:19] <takenoko> ah
[09:19] <takenoko> so enter the dragon?
[09:19] <Lunagel> gremlin's kinda got a point there
[09:19] <Phoenix512> there was a parallel in the previous episode when Haruto absorbed the fire when he henshined into Flame Dragon
[09:19] <PHurricane> yeah, he does
[09:19] <Slowking> dammit luna, stealing my lines!
[09:19] <Macaroni> just leave stuff like this to Voldemort, Sora
[09:20] <Slowking> oooh glowing in the 4 colours
[09:20] <Slowking> his wizadriver
[09:20] <Miyagishin> No games, right to infinity
[09:22] <Lunagel> dammit kanagawa, stop having disasters during wizard!
[09:22] <Phoenix512> probably longer fight scene for the future DC
[09:23] <Lunagel> likely
[09:23] <Macaroni> is that what the red box is for?
[09:23] <Lunagel> yeah
[09:23] <Macaroni> oh
[09:23] <PHurricane> wait, he just went to flame form from infinity?
[09:23] <Phoenix512> Super Gremlin knocked Wizard out of Infinity
[09:23] <Lunagel> can he do that?
[09:23] <Phoenix512> he just did
[09:23] <takenoko> yeah I liked that transition actually
[09:23] <Lunagel> *whose
[09:24] <Phoenix512> not the Defend Ring
[09:24] <Phoenix512> my favorite spamming ring gone
[09:24] <Phoenix512> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:24] <Slowking> was it really the defend ring?
[09:24] <takenoko> I still don't know which ring that was
[09:24] <PHurricane> woah, thought he was about to stab himself like Torin
[09:24] <Lunagel> I think it was Please
[09:24] <Slowking> at first i thought it was the driver on and then please
[09:24] <Slowking> yeah
[09:24] <Slowking> obvious rubber suit is obvious
[09:25] <Lunagel> BULLSHIT
[09:25] <Phoenix512> just wait, Luna
[09:25] <Phoenix512> not so super Gremlin
[09:25] <Miyagishin> Pink?
[09:25] <Phoenix512> the ring from the opening
[09:25] <PHurricane> ah
[09:25] <takenoko> from the opening?
[09:26] <Phoenix512> yeah
[09:26] <Lunagel> really? I don't think I've ever seen it before
[09:26] <Phoenix512> after this, I can cap a picture of it
[09:26] <Phoenix512> Koyomi wears the ring
[09:26] <Phoenix512> another one bites the dust
[09:26] <Macaroni> aw, no big explosion?
[09:27] <Lunagel> so did we ever find out why sora was gremlin?
[09:27] <PHurricane> I'm just glad it seems that she's staying dead
[09:27] <Phoenix512> what do you mean by it
[09:27] <Slowking> probably from the first sabbath
[09:27] <Slowking> just his desire to be a human retained his human self
[09:27] <Lunagel> like why gremlin remembered all his sora memories
[09:27] <Slowking> i think
[09:27] <takenoko> I'm different
[09:27] <Phoenix512> all Phantoms have their host's memories
[09:28] <Slowking> you don't really want to know more about khimaira, more like we need you for the next movie~
[09:28] <Macaroni> "I can totally go on this suicide mission -- 'cause I have a kid with me!"
[09:28] <Phoenix512> Nitou missed being a Mage
[09:28] <Lunagel> please tell me the ring is next to the ark of the covenant
[09:28] <PHurricane> No, Shunpei
[09:29] <Slowking> i wonder if take likes shunpei more now
[09:29] <Slowking> now that it's the end
[09:29] <Phoenix512> Wajima will have the biggest headache now
[09:29] <Macaroni> haha Rinko
[09:29] * takenoko ends Slowking
[09:29] <takenoko> and likes him by 300 %
[09:29] <Slowking> lol
[09:29] <Slowking> hey i predicted this would happen at the end!
[09:29] <Slowking> that he'd buy a different donut
[09:30] <Phoenix512> Haruto will have a Ring haunting him instead of a floating arm
[09:30] <Lunagel> who is it at toei that has such a hard-on for bad puns?
[09:30] <Slowking> did yuzuru have parents?
[09:30] <Phoenix512> yeah
[09:30] <takenoko> immaculate conception?
[09:30] <Lunagel> chubby baby
[09:30] <PHurricane> So is that Chibiusa?
[09:30] <Slowking> then why is he going on an adventure at that age?!
[09:30] <Phoenix512> only on the weekends
[09:31] <Slowking> ._. shunpei
[09:31] <Phoenix512> Pokemon masters begin their journeys much earlier than 14
[09:31] <Lunagel> so do you think Haruto's gonna meet up with Eiji on these travels?
[09:31] <Slowking> i like how the show ends as it started
[09:31] <Slowking> with haruto on the bike eating a donut
[09:31] <Miyagishin> Yeah it was a good ending
[09:31] <PHurricane> Better than I expected
[09:31] <Phoenix512> at least Haruto has a chick instead of a guy dying at the end
[09:32] <Macaroni> it was okay
[09:32] <Phoenix512> even though Ankh looked like a chick
[09:32] <Lunagel> meh
[09:32] <Lunagel> I felt nothing for koyomi
[09:32] <Lunagel> she didn't have enough screen time
[09:32] <Slowking> the last ep was much better than some disappointing story in the past couple of eps
[09:32] <takenoko> at least koyomi wasn't brought back
[09:33] <Miyagishin> oh shi - hibiki
[09:33] <Slowking> HEY NARUTAKI WHO ARE YOU
[09:33] <PHurricane> Wow
[09:33] <Lunagel> ONORE DIKEIDOOOO
[09:33] <PHurricane> That looks like absolute chaos
[09:33] <Macaroni> rider vs. rider? lame
[09:33] <Phoenix512> probably
[09:33] <PHurricane> Huh, wonder if DokiDoki subs are out yet
[09:33] <Slowking> bring koji seto for kiva back
[09:34] <Phoenix512> for this week, 50/50
[09:34] <Phoenix512> just need to find a new font for Gaim
[09:34] <Slowking> one of the issues i had with wizard is there was no other major plotline apart from the koyomi/fueki one
[09:35] <takenoko> you do? but you like everything!
[09:35] <Slowking> which isn't necessarily bad but i felt there was the need of something extra with the way the story progressed
[09:35] <Slowking> overall though, i really enjoyed wizard
[09:35] * Slowking punches takenoko
[09:35] <Lunagel> the fueki plotline just wasn't strong enough to hold 50 episodes
[09:35] <takenoko> it's not bad
[09:35] <takenoko> could have been better
[09:35] <takenoko> a lot better
[09:35] <Lunagel> I do think they could have made it better if they embraced the silly side
[09:35] <Miyagishin> i get what your saying, the show could of been condensed.
[09:36] <takenoko> silly? like donuts and shunpei?
[09:36] <Lunagel> the episode with mayu's school was grea
[09:36] <Lunagel> *great
[09:36] <Phoenix512> they probably wanted to do more with Koyomi but they needed to cast someone who would have been there full time
[09:36] <Slowking> haruto was a great rider though

[09:36] <PHurricane> I would have enjoyed Wizard a lot more if I cared about Koyomi
[09:36] <Slowking> remember how he was at first?
[09:36] <Slowking> no emotion?
[09:36] <PHurricane> I think he always had emotion
[09:36] <Phoenix512> I viewed Haruto as being one of us
[09:36] <takenoko> he's always been kind of stilted
[09:36] <Phoenix512> people called him boring for that
[09:37] <Slowking> i like how he first cried
[09:37] * takenoko lies on his knees and goes "awww, my koyomi-chan is ded"
[09:37] <Slowking> in the ep he got flame dragon
[09:37] * takenoko is bummed
[09:37] <Slowking> don't make fun of the show take!
[09:37] <takenoko> I make fun of everything!
[09:37] <takenoko> that's a terrible scene!
[09:37] <PHurricane> Flame dragon arc was probably the strongest arc
[09:37] <Phoenix512> people on the forums probably wanted someone like Gentarou or Eiji who aren't normal people
[09:38] <Slowking> tbh i liked wizard more than fourze
[09:38] <takenoko> yeah but you don't like fourze
[09:38] <Macaroni> I'm just picturing somene asking haruto if he's married and him going "yeah, I'm married to a dead chick"
[09:38] <takenoko> so that statement is kind of worthless XD
[09:38] <Slowking> i like fourze, just don't love it :p
[09:38] <Macaroni> *someone
[09:38] <Slowking> still though
[09:38] <Slowking> i think toei did well
[09:38] <PHurricane> I probably like Fourze more than Wizard, but I like Haruto better than Gentarou
[09:38] <Lunagel> haruto took me a while to warm up to
[09:38] <Phoenix512> I like Wizard overall
[09:38] <takenoko> it was a decent workhorse of a rider series
[09:39] <Lunagel> gentarou I liked right away
[09:39] <Lunagel> decent series but not really much that stood out
[09:39] <Macaroni> I like Gentarou.. though, not more than Shouichi
[09:39] <Slowking> makes one wonder how wizard would have been different if the writers had been a bit more consistent
[09:39] <Slowking> explaining things etc.
[09:39] <takenoko> it's not really comparable since shouichi is amazing XD
[09:39] <Phoenix512> the writer team was mostly the same two guys
[09:39] <Miyagishin> My issue would really be the pacing, The show really moved quickly these last 4-6 episodes
[09:39] <Slowking> Gentarou is nice, but I prefer Haruto i think
[09:40] <Macaroni> take: touche
[09:40] <Phoenix512> that's how all Rider shows are, Miyagishin
[09:40] <Slowking> shouichi is great, but not as great as wataru!
[09:40] <takenoko> yeah, one my complaints on the forum is that the last arc should have started sooner
[09:40] <Lunagel> clearly Kabuto is best rider!
[09:40] <takenoko> Fueki isn't an effective bad guy since he has no reltation to anyone
[09:40] <Slowking> ooo started it from the early 30s i think
[09:41] <Slowking> from the putotyra arc
[09:41] <Slowking> i didn't mind gremlin being an outsider
[09:41] <Miyagishin> Phenohix512, this one more so
[09:41] <Slowking> i.e. the unexpected final boss
[09:41] <takenoko> Fueki: I tricked you all
[09:41] <Slowking> but i definitely wasn't convinced
[09:41] <takenoko> everyone else: guess you fooled us, time to stop you in one episode
[09:41] <Slowking> he could have stayed around as super gremlin for 2-3 eps
[09:42] <Slowking> well in a sense take pretty much everything relates to fueki
[09:42] <Slowking> if not for fueki things wouldn't have occured from ep 1 onwards
[09:43] <Slowking> but yeah they didn't play on that connection a lot
[09:43] <Slowking> they could have revealed white wizard = wiseman = fueki much earlier and deal with it that way
[09:43] <Slowking> all in all though pleased with how it went
[09:44] <Miyagishin> So the specials are an hour? or normal 30 minute runtime?
[09:44] * Macaroni is now known as Mac|Qc
[09:44] <PHurricane> I think they're each 30 mins, like a normal episode
[09:45] <Mac|Qc> afaik, they're 30mins.
[09:45] <Miyagishin> cool, ya I'm curious to see Gaim.
[09:46] <PHurricane> I think I may be more excited to see Haruto thrown into the craziness that Decade brings than Wizard's finale
[09:46] <Phoenix512> http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9119/264j.jpg <- what I was talking about earlier
[09:47] <takenoko> isn't that just the regular engage ring?
[09:48] <Miyagishin> that looks red
[09:48] <Phoenix512> the Engage Ring was regular Yellow-Orange color
[09:49] <takenoko> looks orange to me
[09:50] <Miyagishin> The one at the end of the show was like a pink - violet color.
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Re: KR Wizard 51 released

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I still think it's the Defend Ring that got destroyed. He was wearing it at the time and also I doubt he would switch it out with the Please Ring.

Anyway, I did like the ending of Wizard. Koyomi is still dead but I think I wouldn't mind if she came back though. Before you guys go "What?", I'm not saying that Koyomi the person should come back because that would break the rule of being back the dead but Koyomi the Puppet is okay though. She established that she isn't the Koyomi that lived as a human but her own person with her own memories and feelings. Gremlin knocking Wizard out of Infinity was pretty neat. I didn't mind Gremlin being the end boss though.

Yuzuru being Nitou's bodyguard on the weekends was funny. The three Mages need to form their own Sentai and fight crime together more often. The donut cart being destroyed was just sad. The donut cart in Fresh Precure didn't get destroyed and neither should Wizard's donut cart. Take, at least the chief wasn't picking his nose this time.
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I liked how Gremlin kept Fueki's sword even after the form change.

It was weird how Gremlin was wasting so much magical energy creating Ghuls and randomly attacking stuff in order to gather more magical energy. That method isn't efficient and runs the risk of creating a magical energy deficit.

Unfortunately, there was a missed opportunity for Haruto to point out that both Gremlin and Sora are figuratively monsters for being so evil. A human serial killer isn't any better than a Phantom.

Shunpei's sudden apprenticeship makes me wonder what he was doing outside of the Phantom work. I guess he was a student since he was always carrying a childish backpack.
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over? but what about the two specials this weekend and the one after? Gaimu doesn't start until October, after all.
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Decade specials. As far as the plot goes. This is it.

All-right I guess. I mean, it definitely didn't seem to carry the kind of impact from the previous finals three finals in my opinion.

I do like how Haruto pretty much sums up how Sora was a monster before he became a Phantom, therefore he doesn't need hope.
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Great episode. I liked that they kept Koyomi dead. It would have destroyed whatever love I had in Wizard. I might watch those Wizard TV Specials. I mean there's nothing left to watch now except Kyoryuger which is slightly becoming interesting.
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It's just me, but I see an interesting parallel here: Fourze is similar to Double as Wizard to OOO. Similar tech - sci-fi USB and cosmic switches versus alchemy coins and magic rings. The fate of sidekick - Philip and Kengo lives, Ankh (at least in TV) and Koyomi dies. Ending of the main character - Shotarou and Gentarou go back to their old setting (detective and student), Eiji and Haruto walk the earth.

As far as the show goes, eh. Kinda give up after debut of Infinity ring. Not the best in the series. Hope Gaim picks up.
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I really liked the episode. I also that in the end it was essentially Koyomi saving the day, with her soul (in the phil. stone) powering Haruto. It gave this "FINAL HOPE" thing a little meaning in the end ^o^v.

Also Shunpei really giving his best fighting of the goons, he even saved Rinko a bit. Also they potentially found a way to bring back beast, if they want to. Maybe without the downside... :)


So did I see that right and GAIM makes his first appearance in the next two episodes? I guess you won't see any dedicated transformation and just see the suit, eh?
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Meh.

That's my reaction to the finale. Comparing Ankh's death with Koyomi's, I realized Ankh's death had more impact than Koyomi's. And the fight seems bland compared to Wizard's overall standard, heck even the fight against Phoenix had more tense. I guess Gremlin, however interesting he is, isn't a final boss type.

Nitou, hope you can come back soon as Beast, your antics is what liven the series up. And you better don't let Yuzuru grow up into another Nossan from Kyouryuuger. That pun.... :roll:

Shunpei really had no purpose in the series much except for a few ep. Since director can't decide what he can do except kissing the floor unexpectedly, guess they just decided for him to be an assistant to Wajima so they had a reason he can be in the series when there's a sequel (maybe?)

Chief Police appearing randomly is a good joke for me. I already forgot about that guy. And he shows up suddenly in the room? :lol:
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I forgot who that officer was.

I liked the finale; Koyomi's death wasn't cheapened by her coming back, unlike Fourze, and Gremlin's death felt satisfying. I think Haruto calling Sora Gremlin was symbolic of how he sees him not as a human; that's his way of saying he's no better than one, as he was a serial killer. Still, I didn't like Gremlin as a final villain. Infinity vs White Wizard was much more intense.

For the series as a whole, I wish they did something better with the side Mages and the Philosopher's Stone. Otherwise, I loved the fights and the suit design for Wizard. Can't believe it made it to the Agito mark.
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So Gremin's first act after going Super Gremlin is to blow up the donuts? So right after he took away Haruto's second love to gain his new power, he takes away his first love as well? That's just cruel, man. Haruto was right. Gremlin lost his human soul. He doesn't deserve to keep his hope.
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I'm genuinely surprised they didn't bring back Koyomi. Given how happy KR endings tend to be, I was fully expecting it. Though I feel the series is a lot better for not bringing her back.

Otherwise, it's a fairly bland finale to a bland series. Actually I found the action rather disappointing. There wasn't a shortage of action, but rather than one big set piece we got several small set pieces - the humans versus the mooks, the mages versus Gremlin, and finally Wizard versus Gremlin - the last of which was a hair over a minute of fighting before Wizard was grounded. Somehow they failed to generate much of an epic feeling for a series finale.

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Not much to say that hasn't already been said, but personally I liked how they treated this ending. No abrupt end after the bossfight, or with less than 5 minutes to wrap up; instead we get a nice extended epilogue that shows what everyone does after the final battle. We don't have many too KR endings like this.
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