Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
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Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/kyouryu/contents/Deboss/0043/
I think he's a boy myself. Yeah the pigtails and the shoujo manga fandom, but I read shoujo manga. I think one of the biggest indicators is that I think he says "boku" which tends to be used to self identify as being a boy.
Anyway, here's the evidence I have.
Luckyuro is a boy:
-Uses boku (I think) to self identify as male since that's the term for "I" for boys.
-If the theme is Wizard of Oz, then the Chevaliers besides Candelira are going to be male. Since Luckyuro would be based on Scarecrow.
-According to the Eternal Brave book, Luckyuro was originally a girl who was based on the Ant and the Grasshopper who would have represented Laziness instead of Joy. But this idea was scrapped and suddenly changed right before production. http://www31.atwiki.jp/sentai-kaijin/pages/3951.html
Luckyuro is a girl:
-Pigtails
-Likes shoujo manga
-Voice actress is female (Orikasa Ai)
-Suit actress is female (Kamio Naoko)
But what do you think?
I think he's a boy myself. Yeah the pigtails and the shoujo manga fandom, but I read shoujo manga. I think one of the biggest indicators is that I think he says "boku" which tends to be used to self identify as being a boy.
Anyway, here's the evidence I have.
Luckyuro is a boy:
-Uses boku (I think) to self identify as male since that's the term for "I" for boys.
-If the theme is Wizard of Oz, then the Chevaliers besides Candelira are going to be male. Since Luckyuro would be based on Scarecrow.
-According to the Eternal Brave book, Luckyuro was originally a girl who was based on the Ant and the Grasshopper who would have represented Laziness instead of Joy. But this idea was scrapped and suddenly changed right before production. http://www31.atwiki.jp/sentai-kaijin/pages/3951.html
Luckyuro is a girl:
-Pigtails
-Likes shoujo manga
-Voice actress is female (Orikasa Ai)
-Suit actress is female (Kamio Naoko)
But what do you think?
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Re: Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
I do actually know some girls (albeit age 10 and under) who use "boku" but they're always girls who have an older brother, so I'm pretty sure they're just mimicking how he talks.
Honestly I think the biggest thing is that Sentai very rarely has more than one female villain. Actually Toqger was a bit of an anomaly in that sense because it had three (although Glitter is borderline). Magiranger you could probably make an argument for Sphinx, Nai and Mare with Vancuria either counts as 3 or 1 or 2, I'm not entirely sure.
My vote's for boy, but this is mostly because I'm hoping I don't have to go back and change every last instance of when people talk to Luckyuro in the series.
Honestly I think the biggest thing is that Sentai very rarely has more than one female villain. Actually Toqger was a bit of an anomaly in that sense because it had three (although Glitter is borderline). Magiranger you could probably make an argument for Sphinx, Nai and Mare with Vancuria either counts as 3 or 1 or 2, I'm not entirely sure.
My vote's for boy, but this is mostly because I'm hoping I don't have to go back and change every last instance of when people talk to Luckyuro in the series.
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Re: Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
Yeah, the "boku" isn't concrete evidence. It just helps support a side. I've definitely seen other female character use boku as well, and if Luckyuro was a girl, she'd be a tomboy (despite the shoujo manga thing).
Glitter is totally a girl. What about her isn't? Because she's fat and looks like a purple monster? That doesn't make her any less of a lady.
Magi's helped by the way the characters are added. A lot of the Hades Gods are pretty much monsters of the week in functionality, so their commander statuses can be called into question.
Glitter is totally a girl. What about her isn't? Because she's fat and looks like a purple monster? That doesn't make her any less of a lady.
Magi's helped by the way the characters are added. A lot of the Hades Gods are pretty much monsters of the week in functionality, so their commander statuses can be called into question.
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Re: Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
No, I meant like Glitter isn't technically a villain. She's Shadow Line, sure, but most of the time we see her helping the heroes. She's on the fence because it's unclear what side she's on.
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Re: Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
Ah okay, my misunderstanding. When I read that, it was like "What?! She's not a girl? ???"
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Re: Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
TVN's subs referred to Luckyuro as a male and I never even questioned it until later on with the manga stuff and the part with the human transformation.
It's kind of ambiguous and also pretty unimportant since it doesn't affect any details and Luckyuro is a weird patchwork cat monster thing anyway. However, I'd lean towards female after all's said and done, if only because this concept art I just searched up has frills and relatively shapely (again, for a weird cat monster thing) legs.
It's kind of ambiguous and also pretty unimportant since it doesn't affect any details and Luckyuro is a weird patchwork cat monster thing anyway. However, I'd lean towards female after all's said and done, if only because this concept art I just searched up has frills and relatively shapely (again, for a weird cat monster thing) legs.
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Re: Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
I've never noticed the frills before. Otherwise, I would have assumed the body shape to be more boyish or gender neutral than feminine.
I dunno. Just from the way Luckyuro acts, talks, and is treated, I get the impression that he's meant to be a young boy character. He's kind of naughty and causes trouble. He runs away from home. Given that Orikasa Ai also voices the sultry Silva from Garo, it seems from this performance that this is more of Nancy Cartesque Bart Simpson voice.
The human form doesn't really count for me, since it's just part of their scheme of the week. Given that Luckyuro is supposed to be young, I really don't think the old woman form is supposed to be representative (The meta reasoning is simply that it's played by Orikasa Ai herself, the voice actress for Luckyuro.)
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Re: Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
I think the big point we're missing is that they're supposed to be gender neutral so they'll appeal to both boys and girls.
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Re: Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
I always say Luckyuro as wholly androgynous. They are a great mix of both feminine and masculine qualities, and as Lunagel just pointed out such gender neutrality is used heavily in a lot of media geared towards very young children.
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Re: Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
I'm going with boy especially when Chaos kept abusing Luckyruo during the teacher MoTW episode. I don't think they would do that a girl regardless if it's a monster or not.
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Re: Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
Ya, Luckyuro is a weird one, since the character design looks feminine, but the way the character talks acts and is treated seems masculine. Overall, it doesn't really matter, especially since the character is supposedly a child and also not human.
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Re: Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
It never bother me whether Luckyuro was a boy or girl, and I think that's part of his/her design. I'll just pick neutral for the sake of ambiguity.
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Re: Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
Maybe if you knew how to translate stuff you'd already know the answer to this.
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Re: Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
Eh, I dunno, I can think of quite a few that had more than one female.Lunagel wrote:Honestly I think the biggest thing is that Sentai very rarely has more than one female villain.
(Dyna and Changeman had 2, Flashman had 3, Turboranger had 2 (though, not at the same time) Zyuranger had 2, etc)
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Re: Is Luckyuro a boy or a girl?
I've always thought of Lucky as a boy. The pronoun usage definitely factors into it, as well as the Wizard of Oz comparison. (Although, to be honest, I still tend to think of Luckyuro's Oz counterpart as Toto, what with the way he's usually trailing after Candelira or one of the other generals.)
So many young male characters are voiced by female VAs, so I didn't put much stock into the fact that he was voice by a woman. The cameo by the voice actress in the omiai episode probably made me wonder the most if Lucky was intended to be female, but I still think the weight of things tips the scale toward "boy".
As for the shojou manga obsession - maybe my perspective is different as a foreign fan, but I've run into more than my fair share of guys (and adult guys at that) who are passionate about shoujo manga/anime, so that didn't really have an impact on my perspective. If anything, I thought it enhanced the awkward surprise when Amy found Lucky in such a feminine bedroom.
So many young male characters are voiced by female VAs, so I didn't put much stock into the fact that he was voice by a woman. The cameo by the voice actress in the omiai episode probably made me wonder the most if Lucky was intended to be female, but I still think the weight of things tips the scale toward "boy".
As for the shojou manga obsession - maybe my perspective is different as a foreign fan, but I've run into more than my fair share of guys (and adult guys at that) who are passionate about shoujo manga/anime, so that didn't really have an impact on my perspective. If anything, I thought it enhanced the awkward surprise when Amy found Lucky in such a feminine bedroom.