Ressha Sentai Toqger VS Kamen Rider Gaim released

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Ressha Sentai Toqger VS Kamen Rider Gaim released

Post by takenoko » Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:48 pm

http://wiki.tvnihon.com/wiki/Ressha_Sen ... Rider_Gaim

Narutaki and a hand monkey dressed like him. That's all.

...okay I have more to say.

Pretty good writing in this special, actually. A bit worrying that Kobayashi and Urobuchi didn't help out, but it was fine. A lot of good gags between the two teams, and there were a lot of good moments. Mouri (the special writer) was a bit out of place in a serious series like Go-Busters, but he's perfect for a light-hearted series like Toqger.

Obvious prequel/promo for Kamen Rider Taisen.

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Post by DaVinci030 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:35 pm

Sounds like it's a good TV special... unlike Birth of the 10th! Kamen Riders All Together!! (1984)

Seems that the Underground Empire Badan is the only antagonist if this TV special.
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Post by Go-On Macaroni » Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:43 pm

Eh? ZX was awesome. A bit clip-showy but, I thought the real meat of it worked well enough.

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Post by PHurricane » Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:02 pm

I thought this special was fantastic and, frankly, better than any of the theatrical Sentai vs. Rider movies we’ve gotten in the past few years.

At first glance, combining these two shows should not work. Gaim is all about the doom and gloom, particularly in recent episodes, and Toqger is (literally) bright rainbows and cheery imagination. However, they establish common ground between the two by focusing on the importance that their respective hometowns have to all of them, and the lengths they would go to in order to defend them. I was so impressed by that.

Seeing Kouta and Right together was bittersweet. Kouta was so idealistic and innocent at the beginning of Gaim, and morally-speaking, he’s really taken a beating over the series. During his scenes with Right, there were moments when I could see glimpses of the old Kouta sneaking out. It makes me wonder if we’ll see Right and the other Toqgers get worn down by the fight against Shadow in a similar way. (Actually, I was a little disturbed about how similar shadow leader Hikari’s mannerisms were to Micchi. I love Micchi within the context of Gaim’s story, but having a similar character within Toqger terrifies me for some reason.)

Narutaki...I still don’t understand who/what you are, but I’ve made my peace with that. After all this time, I don’t think there’s an answer that would satisfy anyone, let alone everyone. So if they make a monkey puppet Narutaki and sell it, I would try and track one down.

The confused stares during the initial joint transformation was about as perfect as you could get. I feel like it hit all the right notes. Ryuugen and Baron’s version of Kachidoki Arms was also hilarious. Poor Baron still can’t catch a break with his name. Although, as far as being the butt of a joke is concerned, I think Takatora and the way he thought everyone around him was hallucinating takes the cake.

Does Japan have a mole problem? The Mole Imagin seemed to be the default grunt troops for a bunch of recent movies, and now we’ve got multiple mole monsters from Badan. It’s just a lot of moles.

Anyway, good special. I think I would rather see one or two of these specials a year rather than the Taisen movies with their overly complicated plots. Just let the characters run into each other, have some hijinks, then go back on their merry way. Yes, Toei won't get the profit from the sale of movie tickets, but I doubt this cost anywhere near as much to make as a full-blown theatrical movie either.

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Post by takenoko » Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:41 pm

Just as Decade is the representation of 10 years of Riders, I still believe Narutaki is the amalgamation of every over-the-top annoying fanboy.

Speaking of towns, I thought one of the plot twists would be that Right and the others were from Zawame. And their secret base was either the shrine tree or Yggdrasill Tower.

I agree, this felt like a true VS special, which highlights the most interesting parts of both series. It didn't devolve into an orgy of battle and CGI quite as much. I think having a good comedy writer also helped for this special.

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Post by dryedmangoez » Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:28 am

I loved it. I thought it was a great balance of both Gaim and ToQger.

I guess other than promoting Kamen Rider Taisen, this special aimed to bring some KR viewers over to ToQger (and vice versa of course). I think it was a good representation of both as well. A good introduction to either show for any newcomers.

And yes, this was definitely much more enjoyable than most recent Vs movies. It was enjoyable and it made sense. It wasn't just a fanwank and both could conceivably fit in the continuity of both series (if you're into all that continuity stuff).

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Post by Dengar » Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:41 am

The best part was Takatora not having enough IMAGINATION to believe in giant robots.

Although it was kinda weird that the fruit suddenly "made my monster grow".

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Post by Catastrophe » Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:53 am

This wasn't as bad as I was expecting it to be. Would have been nice a bit later on to be invested a bit more in the Sentai characters.

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Post by kyoichikiller90 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:19 am

No more platonic relationship... Considered couple already... Right and Kouta really getting along very well.
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Post by DrowningFishy » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:52 am

Well that opening henshin was a bit-awkward. I'll be honest I don't like the newest Sentai but if they really are like anything in this movie some day that might change. I can't believe how many laughs this movie yanked from me. Especially when the mole kept having issues with kitty there (three in the morning bear with me here). Though the part with Takatora really got me. Nice to know how observant he is and how much he cares for his underlings.

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Post by Klanoyt » Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:36 am

This episode made me realize that I missed Narutaki. And Takatora... "What giant robots? Get some rest." LOL.

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Post by Jigoku_Eternal » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:02 am

Not a bad special, only thing that grinds my gears is Narutaki and his Narutaki puppet shows up, gives the pass, and POOF!!!!

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Post by Connie_Edogawa » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:18 am

I love this special, and a small part of me hopes Kouta held onto his Rainbow Pass, so we can get quick blink-and-you'll-miss-it shots of it every once in a while in his room or something.

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Post by MadCow » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:39 am

Random Narutaki out of nowhere was random.

I understand it was just for laughs against Takatora, but it's very odd that a giant robot battling over Zanmawe city doesn't cause massive property damage at all -- not even for show, since most super sentai robot battles still show collateral damage during the fight. It seems they got out of their way to not bump into any buildings at all here.

So I guess Underground Empire Badan will be the primary antagonist for the upcoming Kamen Rider Taisen which, if it turns out to be true, would be a refreshing change from Shocker and all their various incarnations.

I don't watch Toqger but what was this Imagination moment that Right and Kouta had before rescuing Mai? Was it an actual power, like some form of mental precognition thing, or just Right's equivalent of a moral peptalk?

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Re: Ressha Sentai Toqger VS Kamen Rider Gaim released

Post by bluegreen » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:48 am

takenoko wrote: Speaking of towns, I thought one of the plot twists would be that Right and the others were from Zawame. And their secret base was either the shrine tree or Yggdrasill Tower.
I started to wonder about that too when I saw the drawing of the tree. They do look a lot like the same tree and it would explain why they can't find it.

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