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Toqger 45 departing now

Post by takenoko » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:30 pm

Wiki: http://wiki.tvnihon.com/wiki/TQG_Station_45

What goes around comes around. Last week they left Right behind. This week, Right leaves them behind, and then some!

I kind of like it. In a show where everything is done in a group, it's kind of nice to see a good reason to break up the team. Although it sort of doesn't make sense for Right to leave Akira behind too, but that was a funny moment.

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Re: Toqger 45 departing now

Post by Sauce » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:34 pm

ZETT IS RIGHT. WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE AN EXPLANATION THOUGH, MY BAD.

I hope they can salvage this after such a shitty plot twist. I really like this show so I'd hate to see it end on a disappointing note like last year's.
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Post by VerusMaya II » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:49 pm

What? What's shitty about this? Predictable I can give you, but execution and character consistency are there in full force.
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Post by DaVinci030 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:50 pm

So it's really a sad episode... and is a break up of Ressha Sentai (not TOQ 6? What?).
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Still full of darkness for Right. It's the final battle...?
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Post by Zony11 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:58 pm

I have an odd feeling of what is going to happen.


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Right is going to die but will be brought back due to the power of IMAGINATION!!!! Then the Rainbow Line President will give passes to the Toqgers that will allow them to become an adult to transform into Toqgers

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Post by Yaiba » Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:12 am

If this isn't a kid's show, the sword when Zett returned from the engines room would be dripping blood
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Post by Lunagel » Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:14 am

So Zett is Right and Right is Zett... how? I mean, there was the big scary hand and stuff but that was kinda all. A kid would probably be satisfied by this explanation but it's pretty weak in my opinion.

Conductor moves Ticket with his hand but it doesn't require he be attached to Ticket? Wha? But... how? Why? Wha- Never mind, I probably don't want to know.

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Re: Toqger 45 departing now

Post by ViRGE » Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:23 pm

Well I will give ToQGer credit. The first half of the show was pretty awful, but they've really picked things up in the final act. So hopefully it can at least end on a high note.

I know it's not going to happen because this is Sentai, but I'd really like to see Right succeed on his own. No return of the others; just let them stay kids. Make Right's sacrifice (and really this whole episode) count in the end.
Lunagel wrote:So Zett is Right and Right is Zett... how?
It's a clumsy explanation for sure. But I don't think it's meant to be literal. Zett is Zett and Right is Right, but Zett's darkness has contaminated Right and Right's imagination has contaminated Zett. Both have been influenced in a way that has irrevocably broken them.
Conductor moves Ticket with his hand but it doesn't require he be attached to Ticket? Wha? But... how? Why? Wha- Never mind, I probably don't want to know.
I thought that was a good gag, myself. Though I suspect we might get a better explanation alongside the inevitable revelation of the President.

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Post by Impact » Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:38 pm

A lot of symbolism in that episode. If I didn't know better, I'd say they were hinting at Right dying. But I know better. Still, all that symbolism. Great episode though. A bit sloppy on the "Right is Zett" explanation. Felt more like Right and Zett have a bit of each others character inside them. A "one can't exist without the other" thing.

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Post by takenoko » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:32 pm

While Right isn't dying, the fact that he can never be a kid again or have his innocence again is pretty devastating as well. At least for now, he's able to save his friends from reaching the "no going back point". Right's sacrifice and what's at stake are appreciable to me, even if it isn't literal life and death.

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Post by Catastrophe » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:29 pm

Has Z finally packed it in and decided to go full darkness? I doubt its as simple as this. I like the sparkly bits on Dark ToQ 1, makes him look like a starry night sky.

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Post by tr0jance » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:29 am

I'm still bothered by this, when a town is swallowed by darkness time stops on that town correct? That means that a town can be stuck in darkness for thousands of years and when they got released they wont age correct? So that means that the Toqger never aged right?
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Post by Phoenix512 » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:46 am

I still think Right is just in his selfish self and deciding things for other people. Sure he may have a good reason for it but let others decide if they want to be a kid again. Also lying to Akira as well proves to me that Right is still that damn selfish kid he was in the beginning.
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Re: Toqger 45 departing now

Post by mholden020 » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:21 am

tr0jance wrote:I'm still bothered by this, when a town is swallowed by darkness time stops on that town correct? That means that a town can be stuck in darkness for thousands of years and when they got released they wont age correct? So that means that the Toqger never aged right?
Not likely. Subarugahama was frozen completely when it was in darkness, just like the other towns. When the town is unfrozen, the people continue on as if they were just paused. The Toqgers were moving around while the town was frozen, so by that alone it can be assumed that time continued normally for the Toqgers and that they did age, unlike the people in Subarugahama.

However, it looks to me like their child-forms were frozen when they became adults. When they returned to being children, they returned to the exact age they were when they became adults. Basically, it looks like they aged through the series, but when they became kids again, they weren't any older.
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Re: Toqger 45 departing now

Post by Greenstalker » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:50 am

What was the saying 'The brighter the light the stronger shadow it casts' I think this is what president means when Zett is right and right is zett.

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