dancercotillion wrote:And if you swap it out for Horrorscopes and Astro Switches, you have Fourze. What's your point? You just seem opposed to Drive on a vague, nebulous principle. The concept of "bad guys corrupting people with power" isn't remotely new to Kamen Rider, nor is "hero fights monsters."
On the contrary, there's still enough difference between Drive and Fourze for each show to stand on their own as their own individual story, just as there is between W and Foruze.
When it comes to Drive and W however, both involve the bad guys using the same transformation devices the good guys (with each bad guy's transformation being individual to them along with their own unique power) to corrupt people, using negative emotions and said devices to control them- resulting in paranormal crimes being committed. Meanwhile the hero, who is a detective, researches paranormal crimes and uses their own version of the same devices to fight them. That's far closer a set of similarities than with any other two Kamen Rider series we've ever had before.
When revisiting ideas, it's important that series at least have enough of a twist or take things in enough of a unique direction.Unfortunately, with what's been presented so far, there just doesn't seem to be enough there to differentiate it completely as its own story.
Kogashi wrote:If you plan to be skeptical and express it, at least have some reason to feel so other than 'this has been done before'. Cause, welp, news flash, Nothing is new. Everything's been done before. Change out Helhiem with a mirror world and you have Ryuki. Change out Haruto from Kamen Rider Wizard with Eward Elric and you'd have modern day Fullmetal Alchemist. Change out a Greek Hero with a Babylonian one, and you'll go from Orpheus to Gilgamesh.
I'm not denying that any story told can be boiled down to a retelling of one of 6 (at least I think it's 6) basic story archetypes. However the thing is that good stories come across as original, by telling that story in such a way that it's a "fresh take" on an original story. You bring up Gaim and Ryuki however there's far more than simply swapping out Helheim (contracts, Yggdrasil, multiple different streams of mythology, etc) which differentiates them. In fact having watched both, I can recognise the similarities, however I would never accuse Gaim of being a copy of Ryuki, as there is simply so much that Gaim Brings to the table which has made it a completely different story to Ryuki.
The problem I have here is that with how Drive has been marketted to date, it looks an awful lot like it's drawn alot from W, but without enough being there to differentiate it as a completely different story than W. As I've already said multiple times though, I'm completely open to the show proving that perception wrong- in fact I sincerely hope it does prove it wrong.
Kogashi wrote:You want to be skeptical over an unimportant factoid, by all means. But when you express your skepticism, don't get on guard cause someone says 'well that seems like a flimsy reason to be skeptical'. You wanna avoid being criticized on the internet? Than don't express any of your views ever :V
I don't have a problem with my opinions being challenged. I take issue with them being dismissed and shut down by people who don't want to discuss the facts, because based on their arguments, it's glaringly obvious that they haven't familiarised themselves with the facts. Surely it's not too much to expect that if people want to say 'well that seems like a flimsy reason to be skeptical' that they've actually familiarised themselves with everything to date (and I can automatically tell that anyone comparing generic Zodiarts Switches to Viral Cores isn't going by the information presented to date - which has made it clear that each Viral Core is unique) and actually go into the finer details.
