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Re: Shuriken Sentai Ninninger VS Kamen Rider Drive released

Post by Lunagel » Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:50 pm

They tend to film episodes about 2 months in advance, and with the preemption happening on February 15, that's only 5 weeks before airing, meaning they probably already had the episode filming wrapped at that time. In this case I think it was just impossible to work around.

Also it explains why we got a special in the middle of a two-parter. Again.

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Post by ViRGE » Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:54 pm

Lunagel wrote: Also it explains why we got a special in the middle of a two-parter. Again.
Again? When did this happen before? As best as I can recall this is the first time this has happened.

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Post by TorchWood » Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:08 am

One line that had me smiling is gramps saying "A pinch is a chance." Didn't KR Lion always say that?

As for the crossovers.... well, it was fun when KR Decade entered SS Shinkenger. Then, we SS Gokaiger. Now, we have forced teamup. Thank goodness these crossovers are rarely referenced in the normal series.
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Re: Shuriken Sentai Ninninger VS Kamen Rider Drive released

Post by Lunagel » Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:14 am

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Lunagel wrote: Also it explains why we got a special in the middle of a two-parter. Again.
Again? When did this happen before? As best as I can recall this is the first time this has happened.
Didn't it happen during Gaim? I could just be going senile.

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Post by ViRGE » Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:39 am

Lunagel wrote:Didn't it happen during Gaim? I could just be going senile.
I'm afraid you might be going senile then. Last year's spring break special aired on schedule as far as anyone can tell. It came out the day after the movie, right before the start of Gaim's Overlord Arc, while ToQ wasn't on an arc at the time.

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Post by Lunagel » Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:18 am

Maybe I'm thinking of a previous year's special then. Ehh, whatever. In any case, there was no way to prevent the episodes from being aired out of order this year after the preemption.

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Re: Shuriken Sentai Ninninger VS Kamen Rider Drive released

Post by AxemYellow » Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:16 am

I'm not sure they really care much about continuity in specials like this. But couldn't they simply have taken a week off from Drive to fix this issue? Though there is probably not much they could do to synch with the movie release at this point.

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Post by Lunagel » Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:46 am

AxemYellow wrote:I'm not sure they really care much about continuity in specials like this. But couldn't they simply have taken a week off from Drive to fix this issue? Though there is probably not much they could do to synch with the movie release at this point.
I really don't think they could have. KR and SS are pretty firmly in their time slots and they don't just cancel them willy-nilly.

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Post by Digifiend » Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:38 am

TorchWood wrote:One line that had me smiling is gramps saying "A pinch is a chance." Didn't KR Lion always say that?
His name was Kamen Rider Beast, not Lion, but yes, that was one of his catchphrases.
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Post by Barim » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:50 am

Didn't some of the crossover/alternate Gaim episodes state they took place before episode so and so? What would have kept them from adding it in as text or voiceover here?
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Post by FirenOh » Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:09 pm

I actually really liked this special, more so than the Gaim/Toqger one. The dimensional-Shocker-shit was kind of off putting, but it's to be expected at this point with Toei's crossover movies and at least it carries over into SHT GP. Takaharu was actually not annoying and came across as a good leader this time around, which really surprises me. I willing to say Belt-san and Chief being a tinsy bit out of character was put to good effect in creating some great tension being Krim and Shinnosuke, which I enjoyed. Doctor D was a fun MOTW, but I wish Heart's gang did a little more than chitchat. Also The other Ninninger should have interacted more with Kiriko and Gou, but the team up fights were cool. Fun moment abound in this one and overall I wish to see more of these specials later on!
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Post by neonblue2 » Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:43 am

Lunagel wrote:Didn't it happen during Gaim? I could just be going senile.
Nope, you're not senile. This did happen with the last special but it affected Kaito's Overlord subplot and not Kouta's Kachidoki Arms introduction.

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Kouta finished destroying the Yggdrasill Tower weapon and Kaito was halfway through getting steamrolled by the red Overlord. Then the special followed the next week (Kaito was fine, no Overlords in sight). The episode after the special put Kaito back where he was two weeks prior.

It's not the only continuity issue with Gaim. Pretty much all the movies and their tie-ins have problems.
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    It's either in the special or Kamen Rider Taisen but Micchi calls Zangetsu his brother with Kouta and Kaito right there. They may not have heard but still.
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    Similarly, there's another scene where Micchi and Takatora transform out in the open.
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    After Kouta destroys the Yggdrasill Tower weapon it stops spinning for the rest of the series. But it's still spinning in Kamen Rider Taisen, which can't take place before Kouta gets the Kachidoki lockseed because he uses it in both the special and the movie.
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    Episode 37 and the soccer movie have massive issues. First, Kaito seems to both enter and leave the alternate world before Kouta even gets there. Second, we see Kougane transform for the first time in the movie (his Rider Indicator appears when he equips the Driver) but he appears transformed in the episode. Third, Kouta enters the alternate world after fighting Invess somewhere completely different to where he was in episodes 36, 37 and 38. The only explanation I can think of is that Lapis kidnapped the riders from different points in time and that Kougane, for some reason, decided to return to the real world between brainwashing Kouta and being found by Mai. It's silly.

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Re: Shuriken Sentai Ninninger VS Kamen Rider Drive released

Post by Go-On Macaroni » Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:32 am

ViRGE wrote:
Go-On Macaroni wrote:You said yourself that Toei films ahead so, there's no way that I can think of that the writing staffs wouldn't have known about it. So therefore, it boils down to a writing problem; either Ninninjer's Kento Shimoyama introduced UFOmaru too early or Riku Sanjo (Drive's Head writer, this special) didn't coordinate well enough for things to work.
Perhaps I'm misinterpreting you, but how is Toei's writing staff supposed to know about the execution of a Japanese national by ISIS before it happens?
They wouldn't, but I'm sure Toei'd know about ~sudden last-minute changes~.
I mean, Yellow 4 in Bioman had to have a whole episode written up last-minute because the first actress left (and then an episode done to get a new member); similar deal with Hana in Den-O, Yuriko Shiratori quit so they had to quickly introduce Kohana and stuff.
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Re: Shuriken Sentai Ninninger VS Kamen Rider Drive released

Post by ViRGE » Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:23 am

Go-On Macaroni wrote: They wouldn't, but I'm sure Toei'd know about ~sudden last-minute changes~.
I mean, Yellow 4 in Bioman had to have a whole episode written up last-minute because the first actress left (and then an episode done to get a new member); similar deal with Hana in Den-O, Yuriko Shiratori quit so they had to quickly introduce Kohana and stuff.
In both of those cases, you can rewrite the next episode. It doesn't affect the production pipeline since the disruptive event occurs before filming. There's basically nothing you can do if your schedule is disrupted after filming.

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Re: Shuriken Sentai Ninninger VS Kamen Rider Drive released

Post by dekared » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:31 am

i can't seem to find this in the torrents, any ideas where it is?

edit: never mind, i found it, couldn't see the forest for the trees, lol
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