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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by ViRGE » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:47 pm

Boy, this episode went to a dark place quickly. Go gets in a physical fight with his sister, and that's only 3 minutes in. And then Shinnosuke getting suspended, and parents kicking their kid...

Still, this was a really good episode. I like it when things get serious, and it doesn't get much more serious than this. We finally at least partially understand why Go is so hell-bent on destroying the Roidmude, and while I don't think it's fair to the viewer that Banno is his father (especially in a police/detective themed show, you should really follow the fair play whodunnit rules), a "sins of the father" scenario does make it very captivating.

Speaking of which, it never occurred to me until now just how prevalent father stories are in Kamen Rider. Phillip had his father, the big bad, Kengo had his space-stranded father, there was the White Wizard, and now the matter of both Shinnosuke and Go's fathers. In retrospect, I suppose I should have seen this twist coming.

Though I thought it was Beltstein who made the Roidmude, not Banno? They haven't touched on their genesis too much, so I'm still a bit lost on who did what to create the Roidmude, and when exactly this all happened. The Roidmude were only created in the last couple of years, right?

Meanwhile I like the fact that Brain tricked Shinnosuke (it's good to see Brain being brainy), but it seems like it has a plot hole you could drive a Tridoron though. They got into a fight immediately outside of a police station; in fact Brain went Roidemude inside said station. Between the outside and the inside there should be at least half a dozen cameras that caught the whole thing and can prove Shinnosuke's innocence. Also, it seems to me that there's a distinct lack of building destruction when Shinnosuke transforms indoors. That giant tire should be leaving holes in walls every time he does that.:P

Finally, I have to say I really liked the suburban row house setting for some reason. It seems like we rarely see fights or other action sequences in a residential environment, particularly anything away from apartments. With all the homeowners fighting at the end, it makes for a very frightful scene.
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Agreed. The villains have not been well developed so far. Medic was kind of a threat for 2 episodes and now she's not? We at least know who 001 is now, but we don't know anything about his end goal.

On the other hand, maybe, possibly we are finally getting some progress with Chase? He wants his memories back. If that can happen, maybe he'll finally be a character who actually says more than a few lines...
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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by takenoko » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:30 pm

Nah, Beltstein just created the engine core generator whatever thing that gave the Roidmude life. So in a sense, both Rider and Roidmude have the same "power", so at least we're keeping that tradition alive.

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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by MagusKaiser » Fri May 01, 2015 12:24 am

I honestly think this is a good one even though we don't get much on the whole plot and drive behind the roidmudes we atleast get to see some of Go's reasoning but the whole out of time thing is still a mystery, on a side note does anyone else feel that a good old fashioned railroad spike through Nira's head would improve his manners? I seriously dislike this guy and hope karma bites him where it hurts eventually especially after his appearance in this episode creeper factor twenty much with the way he was gloating about shinnosuke getting suspended because of 001's trap

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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by Vraptor140 » Fri May 01, 2015 1:43 am

Ugh, I really hate when we get into these "non mystery" plots, we know who 001 is, we and the special division know who Brain is, so seeing them pull this masquerade is very irritating cause we're just counting down the time till it all gets taken down, there is no intrigue. Plus as it's been said, there are just so many ways in that Brain's trick shouldn't have worked to begin with.

And well, I don't know what to say about Go, I just kinda ignore him at this point. And yes while it's a valid reason for his behavior he's still acting like a big jerk and just taking it all out on Chase doesn't help his case, they seem to be setting them as lasting rivals with the current OP being an example and I don't want to see more of that.
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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by Virgo Angel » Fri May 01, 2015 5:38 am

Lunagel wrote:I highly doubt the two-parent idea, Japan's system doesn't really lend itself to single mothers that well, plus we've never, ever seen a single mother on a tokusatsu show before (iirc). It's more likely they came up with this plot twist recently and are just retroactively putting it in the show.

Actually pretty sure that In Dairanger that Kbarangers mom was by herself be t because hs father died or she left him but hs father was never in the picture unless i'm remembering wrong.
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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by takenoko » Fri May 01, 2015 5:52 am

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I'm pretty sure Shadam was the father of Kou and his evil brother


Anyway, MagiMother started off as a single mother too, for a more recent example. I think there are a lot of Japanese protagonists that are just raised by the mother, who leave to find what their father's legacy was. It's a common trope.

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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by Lunagel » Fri May 01, 2015 6:09 am

Yeah, but they were originally *married*, and then became single.

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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by Strykor » Fri May 01, 2015 1:07 pm

I wonder... could Chase have Gou as part of his human template, or... no, it can't be that. Could Chase and Gou be twin 000?

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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by WannaFantaMan » Fri May 01, 2015 1:59 pm

Strykor wrote:I wonder... could Chase have Gou as part of his human template, or... no, it can't be that. Could Chase and Gou be twin 000?
If this is true, EVERYONE will be going, "LE GASP, WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?"
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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by dryedmangoez » Fri May 01, 2015 3:46 pm

Strykor wrote:I wonder... could Chase have Gou as part of his human template, or... no, it can't be that. Could Chase and Gou be twin 000?
That would then mean Chase and Kiriko... are siblings?!

I would like that actually. Seeing their sexual tension killed by the prospect of incest would be hilarious and welcome. I usually enjoy shipping couples, but their whole "I believe in you!" story has been either annoying, slow or forced. Kyu's 2-ep focus did more for the "sympathize with Roidmudes" feeling than anything Kiriko has said or done.

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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by Sentai_ZXR7 » Fri May 01, 2015 9:44 pm

WannaFantaMan depiction of Gou Shijima transformation in Mach is hilarious, I can't say more :lol:
Nira is an odious character, Heart is more calm even tought he is one of the baddies, Brain is a toesucker wanting to get attention and Medic is sinister as well.
Things in this episode got out of control, the producers need a hit in the head and bring something enjoyable, not stupid ideas that not fit in a program.

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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by Revorse » Sat May 02, 2015 1:57 pm

I honestly don't see how Go is as annoying as everyone claims him to be.
Chaser's fight scene feel like they are going to be some of the coolest. He's so in control. But then again that could change. The 2nd/3rd Rider is always pretty amazing for like 2 or 3 episodes then he becomes a scrub. But who knows.

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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by miryoku » Sat May 02, 2015 8:09 pm

Meh, if they would have developed Go "plot twist" more, like hinting at it in previous episodes, it would have been good but now it just seem to be made at the last minute just for Go to have "deep" reason for his hate but instead it backfired at least for me.

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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by Ximara » Sat May 02, 2015 9:27 pm

Lunagel wrote:I highly doubt the two-parent idea, Japan's system doesn't really lend itself to single mothers that well, plus we've never, ever seen a single mother on a tokusatsu show before (iirc). It's more likely they came up with this plot twist recently and are just retroactively putting it in the show.
I dunno, I kinda thought Hikari's mom from Toqgers was a single mom. I mean they never explicitly said but it's was I took away from the explanation of his home life he gave. He said he spent a lot of his time with his grandmother because his mother worked most of the time, he never mentioned a father so I just assumed single mom.

How has Nira not been arrested for sexual harassment yet? If the childish laughing wasn't enough he did a creepy full on body rub on Shinnosuke's back and exhaled into his face. I was like...no...

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Re: KR Drive 27 released

Post by takenoko » Sat May 02, 2015 9:37 pm

Ximara wrote:How has Nira not been arrested for sexual harassment yet? If the childish laughing wasn't enough he did a creepy full on body rub on Shinnosuke's back and exhaled into his face. I was like...no...
Because it's not sexual in nature?

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