Is Izayoi Kyuuemon male or female?

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Is Izayoi Kyuuemon male or female?

Post by Go-On Macaroni »

Weather wrote:Also, Star confirms Kyuuemon as female, off to porn.
When did he do that? :?
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Even Gramps said that Kyuuemon is a guy in the episode. I don't even know how you got female in that episode.
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Phoenix512 wrote:Even Gramps said that Kyuuemon is a guy in the episode. I don't even know how you got female in that episode.
...is the only female general of the Kibaoni Army Corps

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Did they cite any evidence for it?
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That wiki doesn't cite any reliable direct source. Until we see magazine scans or maybe a flashback, we'll never really know for certain if Kyuuemon is male or female.

Honestly I'm going for male more now because there's no way Grandpa was training a giiiiiiiiiirl as his pupil.
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Lunagel wrote:That wiki doesn't cite any reliable direct source. Until we see magazine scans or maybe a flashback, we'll never really know for certain if Kyuuemon is male or female.

Honestly I'm going for male more now because there's no way Grandpa was training a giiiiiiiiiirl as his pupil.
Aren't you the one being sexist? By the way, I don't see where Izayoi was said to be a male. Everything about his/her gender is ambigious.
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Mandalori wrote:
Lunagel wrote:That wiki doesn't cite any reliable direct source. Until we see magazine scans or maybe a flashback, we'll never really know for certain if Kyuuemon is male or female.

Honestly I'm going for male more now because there's no way Grandpa was training a giiiiiiiiiirl as his pupil.
Aren't you the one being sexist? By the way, I don't see where Izayoi was said to be a male. Everything about his/her gender is ambigious.
You can call it sexist, I think of it as being pessimistically realistic. In a show marketed to boys, most of the main characters tend to be boys. I would love it if Kyuuemon was really a girl, because it's a really interesting character and great design. However, the name and pronouns point to male. Aside from the voice, we're all just guessing.

We're not saying you're wrong, just that there's no proof either way as of yet and quoting a wiki isn't definitive if they don't list a source for gender.
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Re: Ninninger 17 sanjou!

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Erm, i can be wrong...But when Kyuuemon meets Star at the night...He calls her "onee-san", or maybe omee-san...It's hard for me to specify that, but i still think he called her onee-san, and if i remember correctly, that term is gender specific for females. And i don't think, Kyuuemon wouldn't correct him if he was wrong, especially after Mayuri was messing up her name.
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I checked the captions, it's お前さん, omaesan. It's a non-gender-specific word, sadly.
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Would it help solve this ambiguity if Kyuuemon's own voice actress said that she thinks Kyuuemon is male? It's not a guarantee that there won't be a surprise later, but the fact that she assume he's male probably says something.

Also, I'm pretty sure most Japanese think that Kyuuemon is male. There's just some qualities that come off as male, like the name and the design.
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And I think Kyuuemon as female. Because this suit doesn't seems for me like a man suit. When her\his voice actreese presented a hammer she spoke about Kyuuemon's suit actor. He is Hachisuka Yuichi. And his specialty is play a female characters because he has less male rols. And also Kyuuemon's voice is female. (I had a problems with Luckyuro because I understood that she is female only in episodes with the manga)
And the last. In some moments\episodes when Kyuuemon makes a big Yokai you can see the FEMALE nails on suit's glovers. May be not but I see female. First time I saw Kyuuemon I remembered "Megitsune". Result: Kyuuemon is a girl in my opinion.
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Luckyuro's also male though.
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Kyuuemon is described as being a page right? A page is normally a male servant similar to a squire. That would kind of suggest that Kyuuemon is a boy. Boys being voiced by females isn't uncommon.
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The title doesn't have the same gender bias in Japanese as it does in English. All we've got is circumstantial evidence, there's nothing conclusive either way as of yet.
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But... but boys doesn't read manga like Amy reads...
Anyway. Kyuuemon's sleeves are too long. They are more similar to the sleeves of geisha, I guess. I just can't imagine that Kyuuemon's a boy.
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