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Re: Garo Yami wo Terasu Mono 20 released

Post by Kamen_Rider_Shiki » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:45 am

He's right; Hakana couldn't make anymore Madou Seeds so it grabbed Rian, somehow. Tousei explicitly stated so.

I was about to call bull on Hakana reviving Ryuuga's sight, but then when I saw hers was gone I felt better about it. At least it made sense.

Now that we're at episode 20 it seems all the plotholes are resolved and now we can move on to the butt kicking finale. But before that I feel they'll address the much needed question of what happened to Kouga. At the same time, I would like to know why the Golden Wave would be able to restore its power and shine when nothing else could? What happened in the past to make the armor lose its shine? And what armor did Sonshi have before going Darkside?
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Re: Garo Yami wo Terasu Mono 20 released

Post by CuervaLocura » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:51 am

Wasn't that Kaoru's picturebook she drew after Makai Senki on Chibi-Ryuuga's nightstand?
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Post by OOOKaiser » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:59 am

Kamen_Rider_Shiki wrote:And what armor did Sonshi have before going Darkside?
Well Sonshi's Horror form does look like a corrupted Makai armor...

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Post by MadCow » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:07 am

Another good episode (minus magical eyesight trading), looks like it is the calm before the storm. Looking forward to seeing Tousei get his behind handed to him -- after the reveal he has been shown to be such a major psychopath that I want to see him taken out horribly. Perhaps Zedom will do that.

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Re: Garo Yami wo Terasu Mono 20 released

Post by Kurow » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:10 am

I'm the only one that think this is poor writing? Burai knew that Sonshi was a makai knight all the time and probably knew about tousei and he never said anything???? What???? I really don't understand!!!.

Also in a previous episode when the captured Enhou, Sonshi said something like "Her will is strong so its going to take some time for her to turn into a mahou horror" but Sonshi himself turn into a mahou horror in a couple of seconds???? is the will of a makai knight that weak???. it doesn't make any sense.

So Ryuga's mother name is Hakana and she is not Kaoru and so far looks like there is no connection between Kouga and this "new generation" also Zaruba is not going to say anything????....

That ritual was risky as hell and both women end up giving birth to madou plants @.@
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Post by XerBlade » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:40 am

Kurow wrote:I'm the only one that think this is poor writing? Burai knew that Sonshi was a makai knight all the time and probably knew about tousei and he never said anything???? What???? I really don't understand!!!.
No, Burai didn't know those things. He had no way of knowing those things. He was fallen through the floor and out. He just saw Sonshi a couple episodes ago and by all rights should have thought he was dead before then, and he never met Tousei at all before the start of the series.
Kurow wrote: So Ryuga's mother name is Hakana and she is not Kaoru and so far looks like there is no connection between Kouga and this "new generation" also Zaruba is not going to say anything????....
It's been established pretty thoroughly and very early on that this is quite a long time past Kouga and Kaoru and that Kaoru was not Ryuuga's mother.
Kurow wrote:That ritual was risky as hell and both women end up giving birth to madou plants @.@
Which happen to be used in the production of soul metal.
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Post by Dragonfan » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:10 am

Kurow wrote:I'm the only one that think this is poor writing? Burai knew that Sonshi was a makai knight all the time and probably knew about tousei and he never said anything???? What???? I really don't understand!!!.
That's been a bother the whole season. Burai actually have known everything about Zedom, the ritual, the madou plants, but he didn't tell it until episode 14 or something like that. So deus ex machina.

XerBlade, Burai didn't see Sonshi a couple episodes ago, he saw it in episode 9, and after that in episode 16.

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Post by CuervaLocura » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:24 am

Yup, that's the picturebook Kaoru drew about the search for the holy beast she did with Leo. Must have been quite the hit.

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Post by Yaiba » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:55 am

According to legends Madou Horrors were created from Inga Horrors, not humans. Zarubra and Burai were probably confused that the Madou Horrors they found in this city are originally humans. In ep16 he said to Zarubra "I think I finally understands", they figured it out, and proceed to tell the team.

In ep 9 Burai only met Sonshi in his horror form, not human form, he wouldn't recognize him.

Need to bear in mind that although this past few episodes of revelations (16-20) spanned over a month for us, in-series it probably happened within one or two days. There isn't really time for them to talk things over

- They barged into Kaneshiro Kenshui's mansion, Burai recognized Sonshi in human form, they learned that Tousei is the big bad
- Burai stayed behind with Kaneshiro Kenshui in the mansion while the four went to get Tousei
- Tousei and Sonshi went for Kaneshiro Kenshui and beat the crap out of Burai
- The four went after Tousei while Burai is still unconscious
- Ryuuga and Rian ended up captured while the rest escaped back to base
- Ryuuga escaped from prison and the three knights went for the Garo Ken
- Everyone is safely back at base and finally have time to sit down and talk things over
Kurow wrote:Also in a previous episode when the captured Enhou, Sonshi said something like "Her will is strong so its going to take some time for her to turn into a mahou horror" but Sonshi himself turn into a mahou horror in a couple of seconds???? is the will of a makai knight that weak???. it doesn't make any sense.
It's probably because they don't have time to show the slow transformation, they need to get it over with and move on with the story. But if you want to chalk up an in-series explanation then that maybe because they are standing right on top of Zedom's seal. Zedom's power is greater there so it makes the transformation to Horror faster?
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Re: Garo Yami wo Terasu Mono 20 released

Post by Mandalori » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:59 am

Yaiba wrote: - Everyone is safely back at base and finally have time to sit down and talk things over
I think you're forgetting someone. You know the one that's dating someone only to get diamonds to make bullet from them. You know, the one that will become the Madou Horrors' Mother after Ryuuga's own mother. The same that's now shipped with the same Ryuuga and that things she said in the preview are sometime quotes from Ryuuga in the series.


By the way, I liked Aguri's tears and Takeru's reaction to it.

Now they just need to save Rian and to cut Tousei and his three right arms and everything will end well. I know, 3 right arms is a lot for a little guy like Tousei. It's somehow funny to think Tousei was one the Editor-in-chef, that Sonshi was once a Indiana-like UMA Hunter, Takeru a Sentai fan and Enhou an angry policewoman.

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Re: Garo Yami wo Terasu Mono 20 released

Post by OOOKaiser » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:20 pm

Kurow wrote:So Ryuga's mother name is Hakana and she is not Kaoru and so far looks like there is no connection between Kouga and this "new generation" also Zaruba is not going to say anything????
The show has already established the fact that it is separate from the past series. What are you talking about Zaruba not saying anything. In the last episode that was the only time he had said a lot of things in an episode.
Kurow wrote:That ritual was risky as hell and both women end up giving birth to madou plants @.@
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They already explained this in episode 16. Madou Plants are used to make Soul Metal. Without the Madou Plants there wouldn't be Makai Knights.

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Post by dekamaster » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:31 pm

Still wish they would have done something to show that Takeru was blind besides the damage around his eyes that left his eyes unscathed as the fact that they didn't do anything to show that he was blind also made it hard to realize till he outright said it that Hanaka was blind from waving away his blindness.

Overall it was a good episode but I also kinda wish the Ryuuga's blindness had lasted a little longer.

In retrospect Hanaka trying to restore the brilliance of Garo by making the madou horrors bleed gold when they're cut does explain why Ryuuga didn't get a burst of gold when he managed to cut Sonshi two episodes ago.
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Post by Kamen_Rider_Shiki » Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:47 pm

In retrospect Hanaka trying to restore the brilliance of Garo by making the madou horrors bleed gold when they're cut does explain why Ryuuga didn't get a burst of gold when he managed to cut Sonshi two episodes ago.
Not true. His armor did shine a bit. That's why in episode 17 Tousei told Sonshi to back off; he wanted Garo to grow stronger. It probably would be confusing, unless the Madou Plant used on Sonshi was from Wakana instead of the other priest.
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Re: Garo Yami wo Terasu Mono 20 released

Post by Dragonfan » Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:16 pm

Yaiba wrote:According to legends Madou Horrors were created from Inga Horrors, not humans. Zarubra and Burai were probably confused that the Madou Horrors they found in this city are originally humans. In ep16 he said to Zarubra "I think I finally understands", they figured it out, and proceed to tell the team.
Where is that from? In the second episode, they had already established that madou horrors are not inga horrors, they don't need a bad person to be a host.

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Re: Garo Yami wo Terasu Mono 20 released

Post by Alessar » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:15 pm

dekamaster wrote:Still wish they would have done something to show that Takeru was blind besides the damage around his eyes that left his eyes unscathed
Like I said last week, I'm very confident that the blindness was due to damage to the optic nerve, not physical wounds to the eyes themselves.

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