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Post by Leonsagara » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:55 pm

I was fine with the eye restoration. However, I was disappointed that that happened, and then they just ignored the guy with the missing hand.

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Post by OOOKaiser » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:29 pm

Leonsagara wrote:I was fine with the eye restoration. However, I was disappointed that happened, and then they just ignored the guy with the missing hand.
Why would you be disappointed. To restore Ryuga's eyes his mother gave up her own. And Takeru's should remain handless it would the fights more interesting.

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Post by dekamaster » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:18 pm

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In retrospect Hanaka trying to restore the brilliance of Garo by making the madou horrors bleed gold when they're cut does explain why Ryuuga didn't get a burst of gold when he managed to cut Sonshi two episodes ago.
Not true. His armor did shine a bit. That's why in episode 17 Tousei told Sonshi to back off; he wanted Garo to grow stronger. It probably would be confusing, unless the Madou Plant used on Sonshi was from Wakana instead of the other priest.
Fair enough, forgot they ever actually managed to touch him during that fight.
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Even if it was damage to the optic nerve, he still took a sword to the face, the damage around his eyes show's that it did cause damage to the skin despite the armor and to get to the optic nerve the blade would still run right threw his eyes since it's not like in between running into that room and taking the sword to the face he suffered a blow to the back of the head.
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Re: Garo Yami wo Terasu Mono 20 released

Post by Masked Rider » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:46 pm

Many thanks for adding Kyoko Fukada in your commercial batch!

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Post by MadCow » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:00 am

Dragonfan wrote:
Yaiba wrote:According to legends Madou Horrors were created from Inga Horrors, not humans. Zarubra and Burai were probably confused that the Madou Horrors they found in this city are originally humans. In ep16 he said to Zarubra "I think I finally understands", they figured it out, and proceed to tell the team.
Where is that from? In the second episode, they had already established that madou horrors are not inga horrors, they don't need a bad person to be a host.
IIRC this was explained in ep 16, the seeds were a tool for Zedom to control Inga horrors. They were probably unaware that the Madou plants could also be used to turn humans into Madou Horrors until they started piecing together the clues from ep 14-16.

Tousei probably learnt about the process from his mother's books, perhaps they contained forbidden lore about Madou Horrors (so not all priests would know about this); perhaps there might even be some sort of special ritual involved, so not any Tom Dick n Harry could use their blood to convert others.

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Post by toni2212 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:44 am

Masked Rider wrote:Many thanks for adding Kyoko Fukada in your commercial batch!
If my eyes serves me right, right after that it's Tori Matsuzaka aka ShinkenRed, is it?
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Post by Lunagel » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:24 am

Yep, shilling out for House Curry. He's been appearing in a lot of stuff recently.

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Post by Dragonfan » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:28 am

MadCow wrote: IIRC this was explained in ep 16, the seeds were a tool for Zedom to control Inga horrors. They were probably unaware that the Madou plants could also be used to turn humans into Madou Horrors until they started piecing together the clues from ep 14-16.

Tousei probably learnt about the process from his mother's books, perhaps they contained forbidden lore about Madou Horrors (so not all priests would know about this); perhaps there might even be some sort of special ritual involved, so not any Tom Dick n Harry could use their blood to convert others.
But then all the season lose its sense. I mean, since episode 2, they establish that Madou horror are not bad humans turned into horrors, they were strong and succesful people that didn't deserve to be horrors. That wasn't a mistery for any of the characters. If Burai really thought that the seeds were a tool to control Inga Horrors, he would have said that those humans are not good, that they were Inga horrors previously. But no, he said the opposite.

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Re: Garo Yami wo Terasu Mono 20 released

Post by takenoko » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:35 am

I think this week's pic was part of the Garo pachinko thing. If you look at the bottom right, it says Sansei R&D which are the pachinko commercials that you see during Garo Yami.

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Post by Yaiba » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:20 am

Dragonfan wrote:But then all the season lose its sense. I mean, since episode 2, they establish that Madou horror are not bad humans turned into horrors, they were strong and succesful people that didn't deserve to be horrors. That wasn't a mistery for any of the characters. If Burai really thought that the seeds were a tool to control Inga Horrors, he would have said that those humans are not good, that they were Inga horrors previously. But no, he said the opposite.
Which is why Zaruba and Burai never said anything because they were confused about the situation? In ep14 it's revealed that someone in Volcity possess the Zedom scroll and knows about the Zedom seeds, so they figure its probably a human, and not Zedom, that is planting the seeds and turning people into Madou Horrors, and proceed to tell the team in ep 16

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Re: Garo Yami wo Terasu Mono 20 released

Post by OOOKaiser » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:18 am

Dragonfan wrote:
MadCow wrote: IIRC this was explained in ep 16, the seeds were a tool for Zedom to control Inga horrors. They were probably unaware that the Madou plants could also be used to turn humans into Madou Horrors until they started piecing together the clues from ep 14-16.

Tousei probably learnt about the process from his mother's books, perhaps they contained forbidden lore about Madou Horrors (so not all priests would know about this); perhaps there might even be some sort of special ritual involved, so not any Tom Dick n Harry could use their blood to convert others.
But then all the season lose its sense. I mean, since episode 2, they establish that Madou horror are not bad humans turned into horrors, they were strong and succesful people that didn't deserve to be horrors. That wasn't a mistery for any of the characters. If Burai really thought that the seeds were a tool to control Inga Horrors, he would have said that those humans are not good, that they were Inga horrors previously. But no, he said the opposite.
I agree with Dragonfan. Madou Horrors are not created from Igna Horrors they're actually a different type of Horror that was made from Zedom. If we went if your theory then the show wouldn't make sense anymore.

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Re: Garo Yami wo Terasu Mono 20 released

Post by MadCow » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:49 am

I'm thinking the same way as Yaiba -- they didn't know for sure what was going on yet.

I rewatched ep2 just to check. He told them they weren't born from Inga horrors or Gates -- someone made them.

Burai was shown deep in thought (perhaps confused) throughout that epilogue, so my thinking is he suspects Zedom but isn't sure how or why yet, then finally it is revealed in ep14 and they can finally explain everything in ep16.

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Re: Garo Yami wo Terasu Mono 20 released

Post by Kamen_Rider_Shiki » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:13 am

One thing I'm hoping we look into sometime; what happened to his mother/Horror? She ran away, but we didn't see her get slain. She might still be out there.
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Post by Lunagel » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:53 am

OOOKaiser wrote: If we went if your theory then the show wouldn't make sense anymore.
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Post by Saejima Kouga » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:46 am

It doesn't mean the Makai seeds can only be used on horrors/bad people/strong people. Tousei had Hakana produce the seeds and then he would go and inject the person he wanted with it to make them stronger and to put that person under his control. That's all there is to it.
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