Leader13 wrote:I'm curious to know how much of the show people who hated it watched. Genuinely. I saw people repeatedly say how Ninnin was the worst thing they'd ever seen, but they'd tune in every week. If it was the literal worst, why are you investing 15, 16 hours of your life on it?? Or that Garo has been shit since series 1, but they've watched everything since. Switch off, go watch something else.
Well, for some of us, it's our Job to warn people of Dreck and point out the flaws in any given media...even the good stuff.
For others, they don't want it to suck so ignore that it does. Still others just want to complain or continue to view out of loyalty to either the franchise itself or the good Early episodes that interested them in giving the full show a shot. And that's not even those who get pleasure from terrible entertainment.
For me, The show self-destructed at Grateful; before that it had heart but was moving too fast for it's own good and left much of the character and setting establishment and development and other stuff (such as everything that got later recycled into the 'legend of hero Alan' Minisodes) on the cutting room floor; either assuming we knew it, or went back to it FAR past the point anyone cared. That would've been forgivable had they slowed down and explained things in a decent amount of time...but they never did, which in retrospect tarnishes those earlier episodes as well as it was simply a precursor to how bad it would get.
Kind of the opposite of Drive really, where the early episodes appeared to spin their wheels but were actually laying more important groundwork for the later arcs subtextually.
That Takuro Fukuda effectively went MIA without leaving notes on what to do mid-series, and Amazons' Production prevented things getting made so they could even Try to progress things (Such as the Mugen Debut delays) effectively crippled the show past the mid-20's.
Not helped with how the fight scenes or just some random B-plot would interrupt the main plot or story they should have been focusing on which made too many stories just a plain mess.
I didn't feel there was a character shift to Alan being a good guy as most of the development TOWARDS him opening his heart was horrifically handled that it was more like he was a sociopath waiting for his time to strike and gain power from the brother that betrayed him. Then his Dad and the Old Woman Died and...that's supposed to make him a good guy all of a sudden? You're kind of missing other signs, which could have been given before he debuted as Necrom...which was the first time his character despite showing up since episode 2..was even RELEVANT.
Hell, How many times did they either repeat of Change what the Demia project actually was? 4? 5? Why did they NOT conclude that BEFORE they focused on the ganmaizer Plot? because ultimately Demia, Despite allowing for the extended presence of the ever-awesome Thane Camus...went NOWHERE.
The final episodes Where Fukuda came back for more than filler showed how little he actually gave a damn about concluding the series right with how badly much of THAT was handled. The Makoto Clone was unnecessary since they didn't have IT sacrifice itself for Kanon so they could show it conceptualized the meaning of humanity and life a Soul--as healing 'yourself' does not reveal that same lesson for that was just an overwritten final fusion of Makoto's. Not helped that they didn't ELABORATE on it. Ganmaizers reviving again and again despite supposedly perma-killing them? both with their OWN root-power, and With Mugen overwhelming them with a near-constant CHAIN of unjustified curb-stomp battles? Ones facilitated on emotions he has to conceptualize when there's no sign ever that he lost the ability to feel them? The show ran on a ridiculous amount of contrivances.
And dear sanity were Takeru's speeches all just plain terrible. it really feels that by the series' end he learned absolutely nothing, and is taking none of the lessons he learned while being dead with him into his second life by how things went in the epilogue.
Like others before have been saying; I know people don't particularly like wizard, but at least each of it's episodes was more or less COHERENT. it was more a monster-of-the-two-parter series over one that played significant focus on it's storyarc. And by the end it made sense. I agree they could have utilized Mayu Earlier so they could get the Mages in more evenly and Kousuke seemed superfluous until they showed why he was needed in the 11th hour, but there's a difference between not using everything to it's fullest and wasting people's time by ignoring things required to tell and justify your story. That's why Wizard was Dull and not outright bad, while Ghost is probably going to be joining many people's worst-entries-of-kamen-Rider List, though how close to the bottom will probably vary.
I think It'll probably be between 5 and 7 on mine, as I've still got Blade through kiva to watch in order to see EVERYTHING; and while Ghost is Bad, it's neither insulting, disrespectful or Offensive to real-life issues or other material. Definitely agree with the consensus of it being the worst of Neo-Heisei, though.