Kaigan KR Ghost 38

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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 38

Post by darkmage02 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:41 am

A somewhat decent episode for me. Nothing much happened in this episode that moved the plot forward, but there's less of the mindnumbing jokes in this episode (Onari - Javert antics are actually quite funny) which made this one rather enjoyable.

Normally a Rider forego his earlier forms in favour of his ultimate form, so it's kinda nice to see Takeru still wanting to hold on to his luminaries (since the entire series is built on the premise of Takeru bonding with them).

I'm actually quite surprised Alain sit this episode out despite completing his training in the previous.

Jairou is yet another case of random villains popping back in after disappearing for a few episodes. Jeez. And since it isn't his real body that gets destroyed, chances are he will be making more appearances.

Makoto and his clones are the highlight of this episode. Still, I cannot get how is it so difficult for Deep Specter to beat base form Specter despite being severely more powerful.

The pacing of this episode felt extremely rushed.

I am so in love with Alia *O*

Just a random prediction. I have a feeling Commander Edith might turn out to be the final villain instead of Adel. He seems to be the one scheming behind everything.
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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 38

Post by Shurikenger108 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:20 pm

darkmage02 wrote: Just a random prediction. I have a feeling Commander Edith might turn out to be the final villain instead of Adel. He seems to be the one scheming behind everything.
Huhm, I don't think Edith is going to be the final villain. Both Makoto and Alain seems to trust and look up to him. We saw that on the episode Makoto got the Deep Specter Eyecon and on the episode Makoto and Alain saw Sennin.

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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 38

Post by Kamen Rider Gumo » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:26 pm

Shurikenger108 wrote:
darkmage02 wrote: Just a random prediction. I have a feeling Commander Edith might turn out to be the final villain instead of Adel. He seems to be the one scheming behind everything.
Huhm, I don't think Edith is going to be the final villain. Both Makoto and Alain seems to trust and look up to him. We saw that on the episode Makoto got the Deep Specter Eyecon and on the episode Makoto and Alain saw Sennin.
If you saw Gaim, you might not think so.

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It was DJ Sagara who gave Kouta the Genesis Core and the Lemon Energy LockSeed to boost his power and show that two Seeds could be equipped to his Sengoku Driver at once, followed up by the by the Kachidoki and Kiwami Seeds to facilitate his transformation into, for all intents and purposes, a deity. A big part of the reason he did this? To see whose approach (Kouta's or Kaito's) would win out at the end of the day because he was curious. Sagara was trusted by pretty much everyone and turned out to be the one most responsible for the events happening the way they did.


Not trying to be an ass; just pointing out that the main characters trusting someone doesn't mean he's a good guy.

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Post by LeoArchon » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:08 am

Kamen Rider Gumo wrote:Not trying to be an ass; just pointing out that the main characters trusting someone doesn't mean he's a good guy.
This is very true. There are numerous instances in fiction where someone close to the main characters turns out to have been the villain all along. To use an older example, look at Frollo from Hunchback of Notre Dame. Yeah, it was obvious to the audience that he was the villain, but Quasimodo trusted him implicitly up until the end.

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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 38

Post by darkmage02 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:46 am

Shurikenger108 wrote:Huhm, I don't think Edith is going to be the final villain. Both Makoto and Alain seems to trust and look up to him. We saw that on the episode Makoto got the Deep Specter Eyecon and on the episode Makoto and Alain saw Sennin.

As the guy above have pointed out regarding Gaim, I'm going to explain it on Ghost's pretext.

There's no evidence that Makoto and Alain looked up to Edith. If you remember, Edith was the one who sort of forced Makoto to take up Deep Specter, under the pretense that "if you won't do it, perhaps Takeru will" to which Makoto replied angrily "Leave Takeru out of this. I will do it!"

As for Alain, I don't recall a single conversation of fondness between them. He, together with his dad and his siblings (to a certain extent) sees Edith as someone who helped created the "perfect world". His dad may consider Edith a friend, but Edith on numerous occasion has shown that he is interested in his own plans than the wellbeings of the Alain family.

And now we have Alia blatantly asking Edith what is he scheming.

If you look at the history of KR of late, it's not uncommon that the main villain turns out to be someone other than the big bad the heroes have fought the entire season.
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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 38

Post by Rifaz » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:07 am

That was awesome moment between Takeru and the eyecons, almost shed a tear.
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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 38

Post by Shurikenger108 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:43 pm

darkmage02 wrote:
Shurikenger108 wrote:Huhm, I don't think Edith is going to be the final villain. Both Makoto and Alain seems to trust and look up to him. We saw that on the episode Makoto got the Deep Specter Eyecon and on the episode Makoto and Alain saw Sennin.

As the guy above have pointed out regarding Gaim, I'm going to explain it on Ghost's pretext.

There's no evidence that Makoto and Alain looked up to Edith. If you remember, Edith was the one who sort of forced Makoto to take up Deep Specter, under the pretense that "if you won't do it, perhaps Takeru will" to which Makoto replied angrily "Leave Takeru out of this. I will do it!"

As for Alain, I don't recall a single conversation of fondness between them. He, together with his dad and his siblings (to a certain extent) sees Edith as someone who helped created the "perfect world". His dad may consider Edith a friend, but Edith on numerous occasion has shown that he is interested in his own plans than the wellbeings of the Alain family.

And now we have Alia blatantly asking Edith what is he scheming.

If you look at the history of KR of late, it's not uncommon that the main villain turns out to be someone other than the big bad the heroes have fought the entire season.
It's my bad to use the word "Look up to". You guys pointing out these things makes me think "Look up to" is not a suitable word. I mean, Makoto and Alain did not consider Edith as a real thread. When they mistook Sennin as Edith at Takeru's place, they did not panic "Omg how can he find us?" "It's not good now". They just, surprised.
And I know there are tons of people like Sagara, but I still believe Edith is not a bad guy. Or at least, not the big bad.

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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 38

Post by darkmage02 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:33 am

Shurikenger108 wrote:It's my bad to use the word "Look up to". You guys pointing out these things makes me think "Look up to" is not a suitable word. I mean, Makoto and Alain did not consider Edith as a real thread. When they mistook Sennin as Edith at Takeru's place, they did not panic "Omg how can he find us?" "It's not good now". They just, surprised.
And I know there are tons of people like Sagara, but I still believe Edith is not a bad guy. Or at least, not the big bad.
They won't think of him as a threat back then, cause up until now Adel's the big bad. To them, at this point, Edith is just someone who used to help Alain's father.
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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 38

Post by Eternal_Winterbane » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:55 am

Ok so i've been putting this episode and the next one off for a while now mainly as I just can't get into it anymore. However, instead of ranting about the whole series in this post, (Which i'm leaving to a video series i'm gonna start up next month when Ghost is finished) I'm going to focus on this episode.

While everyone above has said that they liked the touching moments between Takeru and the Eyecons, what ruined it for me is the execution of it, which i'll get to in a second, first god i hope that Adel is not the final boss. Why? His final form is stupid looking in both modes and doesn't scream I am powerful, more "water me or i'll die" and this highlights a problem i have with the Ganmaizer's design, they don't fit the Gamma's at all. With Drive's villains the design flowed, same with Gaim. Here not so much, not something that can be changed but eh i will have to deal with it.

Now the whole Eyecon thing, here's how i think it should have gone, the eyecons and takeru get beat as normal knocking their confidence, Jairou says he can beat Mugen and goes to do so, fight fight fight Ghost gets wrecked, BAM Adel shows up with the Ganmaizer, Adel's ego getting the best of him and says he wants to destroy Takeru himself, remains in his 'human' form and the ganmaizer stay back for now as Adel and Takeru fight unmorphed. Takeru gives the same speech rousing the eyecons, Ganmazier's join the fight, Takeru manages to push them back (not destroy just push them back) final attack happens, Adel and the Ganmaizer survive the attack but are clearly beat up a bit and retreat.

That way the Eyecons look a little stronger, Jairou sticks around to follow his development, realising he's not needed etc, and we have a credible fight set up in the future.

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