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Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by takenoko » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:30 am

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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by Yaiba » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:01 am

Another plot dump, something just doesn't make sense to me:
- Edith is talking like Adnois and Alain took no part in the invasion.
- If the Ganmaizer is stopping Edith from reaching the Great Eye, then ask the qualify one, Adnois, to do it. They couldn't fix this people dying thing for hundreds of years?
- If they could just reset the world, why plan for the human world invasion 10 years ago? How long has Adnois been hesitating to push the reset button?
- Makoto admired Adel? He's upset because Adel killed his own father. Riiiiiiiiight. Makoto tried to kill Adel way before Adel killed Adnois.
==> Adel: "That's the first time I heard of this." Yeah, so did we, Adel.

- Makoto, if you know killing the clones is going to kill you, then at least try to find another way instead of continue killing them blindly?
- Speaking of which, that is a super important piece of information you held from Takeru, Kanon. You never told Takeru you saw your brother dressed in Ganma uniform?
- So "Deep Specter" was just a Ganma version of "Grateful" to use the Great Eye's power with no real consequences like we initially led to believe.
- Igor. I don't think Adel, just like the rest of us, remembers that Demia project ever existed anymore.
- Why does Ganmaizer Climate have a cute penguin head?

- Phone conversation"
==> "I want to save Takeru."
==> "Now is the time to help me accomplish my goal."
==> "I said I want to save Takeru!"
==> "Stop Adel."
==> "Oh, okay."

???
They aren't even listening to each other, are they?
If they succeed in going to the Ganman world, a Ganmizer will swipe the floor with them btw.



I'm calling it now, Igor is the big bad, who will survive to the next versus Super Sentai movie and invest a giant robot to fight the previous sentai robot, while the next sentai deals with some random goons.
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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by Go-On Macaroni » Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:08 pm

Yaiba wrote:- Makoto, if you know killing the clones is going to kill you, then at least try to find another way instead of continue killing them blindly?
Given the clone tries to kill him every time he sees him, what else is Makoto supposed to do? Not defend himself?
- Speaking of which, that is a super important piece of information you held from Takeru, Kanon. You never told Takeru you saw your brother dressed in Ganma uniform?
I thought there was a scene where she walks in and is like "I saw another of my brother!" but, they didn't know what to make of it. (Ok yeah, just remembered the "doppelganger" convo scene).
And really, if you say something like that, do the clothes really matter?

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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by ViRGE » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:26 pm

As usual, Yaiba steals all of the important/witty commentary.:P He's pretty much spot on, especially about the info dump. I'm glad we're getting these answers now, but why the heck did it take 15 or so extra episodes to get here, and why is it all being dumped at once? Show, not tell...

So maybe I'm missing something, but why could Akari see Sennin at the start of this episode? As far as we know he's a proper ghost; he's previously not been visible without external influence.

Oh hey, Demia. After like 20 episodes. This had better amount to something meaningful...

Alain made a weapon with the pink eyecon. Humm, I wonder if there's supposed to be a deeper meaning to that?

Finally, I normally don't have any thoughts on the music in this show. But Edith's background music is really nice now that we get to hear it go on for a while. Yeah, it's dark and gloomy. But it fits nicely.

I give this episode an Oniichan out of 5.

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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by nanamarfo » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:21 am

"I'm calling it now, Igor is the big bad, who will survive to the next versus Super Sentai movie and invest a giant robot to fight the previous sentai robot, while the next sentai deals with some random goons."

I Know that's a joke but, Igor still has a human body.
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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by Shurikenger108 » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:57 am

I do not like the way the director deal with mysteries in this series. Let's compare to Gaim, another show which has lots of mystery stuffs from the beginning. But it only takes a couple of episodes to explain (for small mysteries). Only the big, main mysteries were kept to the end (Like DJ's true identity). And better stills, when old mysteries were gone, new mysteries came. By doing this made audiences satisfied and feel this show is still going on its right track.
And for Ghost. They gave us tons of mysterious things from day one. But instead of explaining, they just gave us more and more and explain just few things. For example, does anyone remember that Kanon used to be an Eyecon? And has Ghost explained it? By doing this, Ghost made us lost patience and "hate" this show (The "Is Ghost the worst KR ever" poll).
I gave this episode 4 stars because thanks god, finally, some are explained.
And, I like Edith character than Sennin. Sennin is annoying as hell. Akari got mad at him is reasonable. Sennin has been with Takeru since episode 1, but he always hide secrets (in an annoying way). And Edith? He just came to Takeru's basement for 5 minutes and told everything.

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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by Yaiba » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:48 am

Yaiba wrote:- Makoto, if you know killing the clones is going to kill you, then at least try to find another way instead of continue killing them blindly?
Given the clone tries to kill him every time he sees him, what else is Makoto supposed to do? Not defend himself?
Try to do some research of their origin or their motive or something, instead of just sitting at home, waiting for a clone to call him out, kill the clone, then repeat all over again?
- Speaking of which, that is a super important piece of information you held from Takeru, Kanon. You never told Takeru you saw your brother dressed in Ganma uniform?
I thought there was a scene where she walks in and is like "I saw another of my brother!" but, they didn't know what to make of it. (Ok yeah, just remembered the "doppelganger" convo scene).
And really, if you say something like that, do the clothes really matter?
Yes, the clothes matter. Because if its just a look alike then it may really just be a random person who looks like Makoto. There are doppelganger in this world. But if that guy is wearing an enemy uniform then it most certainly is an enemy scheme targeted at Makoto, and this whole situation will become more serious than just meeting a random doppelganger.
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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by Lunagel » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:03 am

This episode just goes totally off the rails. It explains, but it both explains too much and not enough. Why was Adonis even trying to invade Earth in the first place? Edith makes it sound like it was all Adel's idea but in that case would the father have known his son was batshit? What is up with Makoto's clone thing? Why is it even here? It seems like it's just there to give Makoto something to do.

I enjoyed this show at the beginning but the past few episodes have just confused and irritated me. And I'm still pissed that Akari, a really excellent girl role-model who is a scientist and a driving force in the series, was followed up by Kanon, whose main role is to say people's names dramatically and look helpless. I don't blame the actress for this one, I blame the writers.

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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by ViRGE » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:03 am

Yaiba wrote:

Given the clone tries to kill him every time he sees him, what else is Makoto supposed to do? Not defend himself?
Try to do some research of their origin or their motive or something, instead of just sitting at home, waiting for a clone to call him out, kill the clone, then repeat all over again?
Or better yet, detain them so that you don't have to go through the after-effects of killing them. After all, they're Makoto clones; rough them up a bit and they'll be unconscious for 1-2 episodes easily. :P

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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by eijiman » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:07 am

Yaiba wrote: Try to do some research of their origin or their motive or something, instead of just sitting at home, waiting for a clone to call him out, kill the clone, then repeat all over again?
Yes also not telling Takeru and the others is just a stupid move, There is a guy who looks exactly like you and works for some dudes that want to kill you and your friends, i think it is reasonable that you should inform the others, so they don't be caught off guard, a "That specter is a spy!" kind of thing. Also it would be intelligent to tell them what killing them does to you, so if Takeru runs into them he doesn't go in a Makoto nii-chan killing spree.
Yaiba wrote: Yes, the clothes matter. Because if its just a look alike then it may really just be a random person who looks like Makoto. There are doppelganger in this world. But if that guy is wearing an enemy uniform then it most certainly is an enemy scheme targeted at Makoto, and this whole situation will become more serious than just meeting a random doppelganger.
Indeed, they are very important in this case, even if there was no doppelganger, why makoto would be wearing them is important enough. He might not be a traitor, but he being reckless enough to try something really dangerous on his own would still be a possibility.



I liked the fact that Igor seems to be following his plan, at least he seems to be doing something meaningful and not just some random crap.

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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by resop2 » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:09 pm

I am pleased that the show seems to be somehow conforming to my aimless ramblings:

Akari (Ghostoger Yellow) does get Beethoven, so with Newton and Edison she can take out large numbers of grunt-mas at the same time.

Igor was not forgotten, and will be bringing a proper big evil. This gives me hope that Bills will be part of the solution that defeats his plan.

I am wondering if Makoto prime is similar to Nova in Magic Knights Rayearth?

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If Makoto prime was created as a shadow of the darkness in Makoto's soul when he agreed to use Deep Spector, then the only solution might be to subdue Makoto Prime without killing him, and then hug it out, admitting that the darkness of his soul is something that defines him and is something that he must accept and love.


If Edith is the one who has created a lot of the transforming technology, there's no reason why he couldn't create the Ghostoger's belts if the writers felt like it.

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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by Rifaz » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:17 pm

I guess now we're just waiting for Igor to become the last big bad.
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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by Uzur9 » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:48 pm

I've come to the conclusion that this series is "Kamen RIder: Friendship is Magik"
Kamen Rider left to finish:

[2017.02.28] Have seen every Season up to date.

Build - [2018] Kamen Rider Zi-O

Super Sentai left to finish:

['75-'86] Gorenger - Flashman x ['89-'90] Turboranger - Fiveman x ['18] Lupin VS Pat

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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by resop2 » Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:23 pm

Uzur9 wrote:I've come to the conclusion that this series is "Kamen RIder: Friendship is Magik"
LOL

I'm not sure I would go that far. However, Ghost seems to be more like a general Tokusatsu show than a Kamen Rider show. After all, Takeru's bike has been missing in action for 30 episodes or so. Also, Akari is ridiculously overpowered for a childhood friend of the rider. She almost fights on an equal level as Alain. Maybe this is really Akari's show: "My Childhood Friend is a Kamen Rider".

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Re: Kaigan KR Ghost 41

Post by LeoArchon » Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:09 pm

This episode was better than the previous two, I'll give it that. Seeing something actually moving the plot forward is always nice. I'm still sore about Alia getting all of one Henshin scene thus far, but Edith's version of Ultima is pretty sweet-looking.

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My problems come with the preview of the next episode; I really hope it doesn't go where I think it's going. If Takeru manages to befriend Adel, then I swear I'll start calling him Naruto, or Ieyasu Tokugawa.

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