Kamen Rider Ghost HBV The Truth! Secret Behind the Luminary Eyecons! Released

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Kamen Rider Ghost HBV The Truth! Secret Behind the Luminary Eyecons! Released

Post by Lunagel » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:48 pm

This wasn't really an HBV so much as an epilogue... but if that means we don't have to buy a 60 dollar Blu-Ray and translate a 90 minute Saga movie, all hail the new HBV epilogue!

Not much to say here, pretty generic dialogue, boring backstory that might've been better in the actual series. One does have to wonder they went to all the trouble of going to the Ganma world and then just using the same goddamn set. Just keep it on earth and cut out that 2 minutes of explanation!

And here's where I have a huuuuuuge beef with the writers for these lines: "Luminaries found their path, believed in it, and followed it honestly, until their lives burned out. Not geniuses, but people who follow their path through effort!"

Bull. Shit.

That can apply to about half of them if you really stretch it (my analysis below)-
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Musashi - Eh, okay
Edison - Is a thieving hack but I suppose the popular image of him does fit with this
Robin Hood - This fits
Newton - Was a genius and honestly da Vinci faced more adversity than Newton so no
Billy the Kid - Acted more out of desperation than conviction (and if it was conviction to become an outlaw then this definition becomes more odd)
Beethoven - Fits
Goemon - Since he's basically Robin Hood, okay
Benkei - Served Minamoto no Yoshitsune and followed him so no
Himiko - Hard to say since the historical figure was so long ago but okay I guess
Ryouma - Fits
Tutankhamun - Not in the least. Tut became pharaoh at age 9 and only lived to about 18 so most of his decisions were made by advisors.
Nobunaga - Fits
Houdini - Eh... I guess?
Grimm - Okay
Sanzou - Fits


In no possible stretch of that explanation can it apply to Tutankhamun. Honestly it applies to his brother?/father?/predecessor Akhenaten more, who broke with with tradition, Tut just kinda let everything go back to the status quo.

Newton is basically the same as da Vinci anyway so this is a bit of a kick in the pants.

They're trying to get out a good message but it comes as a too little too late, ultimately unsatisfying ending.



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Please let Ghost die.

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Re: Kamen Rider Ghost HBV The Truth! Secret Behind the Luminary Eyecons! Released

Post by nanamarfo » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:12 pm

I hope Ghost dies soon. And gives birth to Ex-Aid HBV and V-Cinemas.

But serously, this was eh.
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Re: Kamen Rider Ghost HBV The Truth! Secret Behind the Luminary Eyecons! Released

Post by TajadorCombo » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:19 pm

Somebody tell me who's the author of the book that Takeru is always reading, because if Edison fits more in the category of luminary than Da Vinci or Tesla then that guy knows nothing about history

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Re: Kamen Rider Ghost HBV The Truth! Secret Behind the Luminary Eyecons! Released

Post by fenrir » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:28 am

this saionji epilogue is much better than the series itself.
still the same ghost thou, although perhaps the pacing is much better.
1 thing keep making me watch ghost is just bcoz i consider Kanon is quite cute.

other than that i hardly said this is the worst & such a very let down KR series
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Re: Kamen Rider Ghost HBV The Truth! Secret Behind the Luminary Eyecons! Released

Post by Boukensilver06 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:51 am

I would say that this HBV was a let down, but so was the entire series. Boring, drawn out storyline with bad writing that makes no sense and questions even who could be Luminaries. Not to mention that I guess I am kind of used to seeing one-off power-ups for the protagonist like they have been in previous HBVs and this one didn't even have that.
Lunagel wrote: One does have to wonder they went to all the trouble of going to the Ganma world and then just using the same goddamn set. Just keep it on earth and cut out that 2 minutes of explanation!
I completely agree. When I saw this, I thought I was going to lose my mind.
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Re: Kamen Rider Ghost HBV The Truth! Secret Behind the Luminary Eyecons! Released

Post by Kurokage X » Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:36 pm

What a letdown that was. I would have kept everything in the original base if they were going to use the original set with different lighting. Saionji's backstory is enough to kill me based on how generic it felt. And the illuminaries/heroes, I don't give a crap anymore, choosing felt dumb. Ultimately wasted 15 minutes of my life on this and it wasn't worth it.
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Re: Kamen Rider Ghost HBV The Truth! Secret Behind the Luminary Eyecons! Released

Post by ViRGE » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:59 pm

I for one really enjoyed that. In fact it's probably the most enjoyable piece of Ghost media since what, somewhere around episode 30?

Kanon was useful. Onari kept his yap shut. Takeru didn't drone on (and on) about the human spirit. Best of all, the pacing was tight and to the point. If the rest if the series had been like this, Ghost may not have been great, but it would have likely turned out as a solidly good series.

Saionji has always bugged me, and this episode helps with that. The show turned him into the first arc villain, but it never properly built him up for that task. I do agree his background is still a bit generic, but it's background that's better late than never. I can appreciate being jealous of the infallible Ryuu, and Saionji's actor gave his monologue all the weight it deserved.

Heck, I wish the other hBVs were like this. This was infinitely more enjoyable than the comedy-focused HBVs, which not to slag comedy as inferior, but often are based on very weak gags.

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