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Ex-Aid OP: Will it be abandoned forever?

Post by aa1874 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:49 pm

Usually before a movie related to Riders released and after its release, the OP will show the scenes from the movie.

But with only 1 wk until Chou Super Hero Taisen's red carpet event,
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and the latest episode doesn't show the OP,
will the OP be abandoned forever?

I suggest that if the next episode does not have an OP please add the EXCITE lyrics to the end of the show.

Just my 2 cents

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Re: Ex-Aid OP: Will it be abandoned forever?

Post by takenoko » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:02 pm

Someone want to photoshop together a missing poster for Excite? It's gone missing and we don't know where to find it.

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Re: Ex-Aid OP: Will it be abandoned forever?

Post by VerusMaya II » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:52 pm

I was thinking about this just last episode, actually. What executive decision was made behind the scenes to allow a genre/franchise staple to simply be excised from the show? Man hours went into filming, editing, and post-processing the OP, so how did the writer/producer/whoever convince anyone to get rid of it to allow, what, ~2 more minutes of episode proper? Is it a permanent change, for the rest of Ex-Aid?

Does anyone wanna do the math and sort out how many minutes total they're gaining over all these episodes, and if it ends up being worth a whole extra episode or two in gained time?

(Conspiracy theory time: it made me paranoid that Ex-Aid is doing what Decade did, and is not going to be a full 48-49 episodes.)
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Re: Ex-Aid OP: Will it be abandoned forever?

Post by takenoko » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:01 pm

I dunno. At first, I thought they did that to promote the sale of the CD. But now, I wonder if the singer did something controversial, so they're forced to downplay his involvement in the series?

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Re: Ex-Aid OP: Will it be abandoned forever?

Post by Lunagel » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:52 pm

Just checked, singer hasn't had any recent controversy so it's not him. Japanese Twitter is wondering what happened as well, no one's got any good answers. It's possible that they're not doing it so there aren't any movie spoilers but they could just do the regular theme for that.

My guess is that since the OP case some scenes that are homages to previous rider OPs, someone​didn't like that they didn't get asked or get credit. But that's just a stab in the dark

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Post by takenoko » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:21 pm

What? I don't think I understand that last line at all.

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Re: Ex-Aid OP: Will it be abandoned forever?

Post by xiiliea » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:54 am

Maybe they're just too lazy to edit Kiriya out from the OP.
I suggest that if the next episode does not have an OP please add the EXCITE lyrics to the end of the show.
I think it has appeared enough times already. Also, since the song plays when there's dialogue going on, it will just be clutter.

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Re: Ex-Aid OP: Will it be abandoned forever?

Post by Catastrophe » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:42 am

There is also the fact that Ex-Aid is fighting level 2 GENM, who hasn't actually been in it for a while. I couldn't really be being too lazy to change it, right?

I don't get why they've done it. Like do they really need that extra 2 minutes for every episode? I don't think Excite works as an ending theme or battle theme either, but did enjoy it alongside the filmed opening scene.

Between this and lack of insert songs, I'm really kind of pissed off. Good music and placement was always one of the things I enjoyed about rider series.

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Re: Ex-Aid OP: Will it be abandoned forever?

Post by Lunagel » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:04 am

takenoko wrote:What? I don't think I understand that last line at all.
What I meant was that there are several scenes in the OP that are homages to previous Rider OPs. If there was someone who worked on one of them that didn't like that their idea was being used without credit/permission then it could lead to legal problems.

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Re: Ex-Aid OP: Will it be abandoned forever?

Post by Catastrophe » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:19 am

I still find it pretty strange that there hasn't been anything offical stating why this is the case. I imagine they still have to shoehorn it in every episode because of contractual obligations, which is why we always get it at the ending now.

So Kamen Rider went from having no ending and ending theme, to now not having an opening and an ending theme without the ending? Is this also Decades fault?

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Post by takenoko » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:13 am

Huh. It's been a while, but what parts of the opening are references to previous Rider series? I don't think I picked up on that at all.

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Re: Ex-Aid OP: Will it be abandoned forever?

Post by VerusMaya II » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:06 pm

Catastrophe wrote: Is this also Decades fault?
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Re: Ex-Aid OP: Will it be abandoned forever?

Post by Kurokage X » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:34 pm

I'll just assume that they don't feel like making new scenes for the intro for the new forms and riders coming up and for the ones that are here
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Re: Ex-Aid OP: Will it be abandoned forever?

Post by ViRGE » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:18 am

VerusMaya II wrote:Does anyone wanna do the math and sort out how many minutes total they're gaining over all these episodes, and if it ends up being worth a whole extra episode or two in gained time?
The OP itself is just about 1:15 long, but after factoring in the new title sequence, you essentially save a flat minute by excising it. We haven't had a regular OP since episode 14, so assuming a 50 episode run, the show gets an extra 36 minutes. Which works out to just under an extra episode and a half of footage.

At any rate, I like it. Ex-Aid has been killing it, so while I love Excite, I can deal with it being at the end if it gets us an extra minute per episode.
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I suggest that if the next episode does not have an OP please add the EXCITE lyrics to the end of the show.
I think it has appeared enough times already. Also, since the song plays when there's dialogue going on, it will just be clutter.
Ditto. I don't really see the need for lyrics right now when they're in earlier episodes and the Wiki. Lyrics are great when there's no dialog, but that's not the case for Ex-Aid.

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Re: Ex-Aid OP: Will it be abandoned forever?

Post by Mxylv » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:38 am

takenoko wrote:Huh. It's been a while, but what parts of the opening are references to previous Rider series? I don't think I picked up on that at all.
The main one I noticed was Emu walking past a black-and-white background, similar to Faiz's OP, though other people have noticed Emu's head disappearing into pixels being similar to part of Decade's opening and the cast quickly holding their Gashats mirroring Ryuki's OP (pun not intended).
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