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KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by takenoko » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:33 pm

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Re: KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by TypicalStandUser » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:46 am

Good final battle but predictable character resuscitation premise post-finale.

Zod, the V-Cinema Trilogy better be worth the time.
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Re: KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by Go-On Macaroni » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:21 am

Final fight needed 300% more Road Rollers.

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Re: KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by OOOKaiser » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:49 pm

the final battle was just weird for me. They get overwhelmed in their final forms but they're able to beat him in lvl 2 forms? Other than that I liked the other parts of the episode where Emu went up on camera. The ending credits was nice to watch too.

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Re: KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by Lunagel » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:33 pm

Well that was... underwhelming. Cliched lines, then beat the boss, then a big speech and then he... just disappears? Uhh... Okay?

Predictable ending, sucks for the victims, hopefully you will get resurrected in Ex-Aid 2: The Search for More Money

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Re: KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by Catastrophe » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:10 am

The line about Parados sacrifice weakening Cronut makes no sense if he was still trouncing them in their max level forms.

Ending is kind of lame. I guess they didn't cop out and revive everyone who died immediately, but Poppy and Parado coming back was predictable and empty.

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Re: KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by Draccy » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:02 am

Enjoyable ending. Thankfully it wasn't written that every person who lost their life was returned to life. Poppy and Parad's return method was meh, but cool, they're back. Hopefully the Alternate Ending is comparable to GoRider.

I know Masamune claimed Emu couldn't transform into Hyper Muteki because of Parad's defeat, but why didn't he pass around the gashat to give them their advantage against Pause? "I'm just gonna stand here while they get their asses kicked, until my almost death when I reawaken not dead Parad and smash your driver"

Final fight could have used more forms, or at least Proto Drago Knight Hunter Lazer and PoppyMiFa Beat Brave.

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Re: KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by Renigami » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:22 am

Just like in one fell swoop of a final 'thirty minute' episode things were cleaned up but like the supposed bugsters' defeat, there remains residue not even a full medical tool sanitation can eradicate....

If Dan Kuroto is supposed to be under full Ministry of Health surveillance, then who was in the room with him and Poppy? Don't tell me that he brought back his mom, and then Poppy got a digital coffee cup and pinged the bars?

It was a nice touch to name the "deceased" but it seems strange to name those that are "present" like Kiryia and Kuroto. And even if the data manifests itself in reality again of those that "deceased" does that mean that they are now in the flesh? Or are they also in the "bugster" state like the aforementioned duo? In Emu's press conference, he equates both the same... but really Emu - that does not mean that both even have the same inner mechanics to diagnose just because they both have "heart".

This is the FIRST quiet and calm episode in a while, and that is what stood out. It gave Kamen Rider Ex-aid room to finally breathe amongst trope after trope after meme after meme that grows increasingly with every Kamen Rider after Kabuto. And that is a plus. The final fight is a cop out to throwback the Level 2 forms like the Level 1s, but really it brings to light about the absurd usage of power escalation and scaling unlike another anime series that also polluted the shonen genre, Dragonball Z. But people expect big numbers after big numbers - and this is the result...

A result that really dilutes any context of plot and meaningful character relationships as a result. And as a result, a final episode to call back just exactly what these characters are supposed to be.... unfortunately.

Totally expected a Build gashat, after Kuroto's bout... not a surprise. It was a when and not an if.

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Re: KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by nanamarfo » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:22 pm

Excellent Episode for an Excellent show.

Nice to see a night fight for once.

Every feels nicely wrapped up.

More endings? Uggh... Toei coming on with the video game bullcrap.

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Re: KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by Kurokage X » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:02 pm

Underwhelming for a finale.

So the riders are unable to defeat Cronus in his now regular form with their final forms but are able to in their original forms because how? The fight is nice however.

Masamune is defeated once and for all right, well he is but he decides to give the heroes a bittersweet victory by killing himself, thereby ensuring the riders don't resurrect everyone who succumbs to game disease so aw well.

and it is revealed that Poppy & Parad had cultivated within Kuroto and Emu thereby making their deaths meaningless, for Parad death is meaningless to him again so god damn it Takahashi. Though they are now doctors for CR to take care of any remaining Bugster remnants, which is who Salty? Aranbura?

and in the end Kuroto reflects on being an ass while begins to work on games that don't kill people, Taiga becomes a license doctor again with Nico attempting to be his assistant against his will, speaking of which she's revealed to still be in school because nobody decides to expel her for her long abscence, Hiro moves on from Saki's death again, Kiriya is now working with the new Genm CEO Tsukuru, how did he get that high of a position, to work on a vaccine for every bugster, and Emu makes a speech saying we'll bring smiles to everyone and who cares really

guess to pile in on the video game reference, this must be the bad ending since it felt underwhelming and not everything is fixed as in no more bugsters, everyone is back from the dead as bugsters which doesn't help that we're going to get a trilogy of endings next year.
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Re: KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by Ashki » Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:29 pm

I honestly felt it all came together about as perfectly as it can. The fact that this episode actually leads into the movie as unexpected. Also, I like how almost everything made sense.

- Because Masamune had been vaccinated against the bugster virus, he was losing power. This is similar to vampire attacks in many RPGs where a baddie literally drains experience on a successful hit. In other words, Chronos/Chronicle had himself been reduced to level 10 or below.

- While I was hoping they would stay dead, I'm satisfied by the infection reason or Poppy and Parado's return. It makes perfect sense from a medical standpoint.

- Emu's speech was excellent and really showed how much he's grown. I love how he acknowledged everyone who's suffered from Game Syndrome, whether they lived or died. I also love how they pulled the cryogenics move to avoid bringing everyone back to life (Walt Disney and others were cryogenically frozen, even though we have no way to resucitate them... they believed by the time we could cure their ailmentss, we would have the ability to thaw them safely).

- Masamune's suicide was meant to be the ultimate insult, as well as the ultimate victory. The doctors lost a patient, and they failed tgo bring him in. It's a stupid mindset, but one that's perfectly fitting for Masamune's psychopathology.

The only thing that seemed off was Emu breaking through Pause, but I'm gonna put that down to a side effect of his being re-infected. Plus, it was a pretty awesome moment.

I'm eager to see how the movie picks up from here and whether it muddies the waters or does justice to how this series panned out.

Oh, and a note/reminder for the more critical reviewers before Build comes out:

Remember, this is a kid's show and the writers are expected to follow a formula full of tropes. Much as with how we pretty much know the exact episode a new Ranger will appear in a Super Sentai show before the first episode airs, Kamen Rider is expected to follow a pattern. I feel the writers did an amazing job overall of trying to push the limits of what they were expected to do. Could they have done better? Sure, but they probably would have been sacked by mid-season if they tried to go any further. Please keep this in mind when Build debuts. Ex-Aid had a lot of nuances that required you to pay attention, and I wouldn't be surprised if Build continued this trend. But at its core, Toei wants these shows to be flashy and dumbed down to ride the success of Western shows like Power Rangers. As an older fan (and probably one of the oldest on this forum), I look at modern Kamen Rider the way I look at teen books, such as Animorphs. I want things to make sense amd require logical deductions at times, but I can accept the more simplistic approach because I understand the target age range.
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Re: KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by Go-On Macaroni » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:23 pm

Ashki wrote:I feel the writers did an amazing job overall of trying to push the limits of what they were expected to do. Could they have done better? Sure, but they probably would have been sacked by mid-season if they tried to go any further.
Writers would get sacked for improving their writing? How would that make sense? It's not like we're talking Faiz novel level of content here or the Hibiki mess but, just wanting your writing to be the best it can be... I can't imagine would be a bad thing.

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Re: KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by DekaBreak » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:30 pm

I said this a few weeks ago, and they just prove me right that it's only after 5 years of secret operations with Taiga, Hiiro and later Emu, and after a madman and his mad father trigger a mass outbreak of disease, that the authorities CONSIDER developing drugs for the disease. Very "efficient" healthcare (even by Japan standards). So Johnny Maxima is barely introduced and then the story wraps up without even a word about him.

I don't know, did Ex-Aid really get canceled due to bad ratings? The 'twists' this episode are all far too convenient and it's as if they were rushing to end it (Parado being absorbed conveniently enough that Emu can break Pause even without Hyper Muteki, Dan Masamune committing suicide etc)

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Re: KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by DaVinci030 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:59 pm

DekaBreak wrote:I don't know, did Ex-Aid really get canceled due to bad ratings?
This has nothing to do with bad ratings. I was thinking it's the time-slot changes or something.

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Re: KR Ex-Aid 45 released

Post by fenrir » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:09 am

the ending is kinda so so.
i do think no other series than Gaim that the dead stay dead. Poppy & Parado back is kinda make last episode not so important thou.

the good thing is the midnight final fight is awesome, and tied up to the 1st scene in 1st episode.
other than that i guess all is predictable and nothing to be surprised for.
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