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Re: LupinRanger VS PatRanger series discussion (Spoilers)

Post by Kuchiri » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:42 pm

I loved just about everything with Lupinranger vs Patranger. It will probably be the Toku I recommend to newbies now.

I first started talking about how I loved everyone had a 'mask' a while back.
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New Amendment X is honestly an avatar of Lupin masquerading as a carefree man. That's his mask. We can assume his personality is the same as Lupin's. You can see cracks in his mask whenever he has to be serious, you can tell all he wants is the Lupins and Pats working together because that will get him to his goal he's trying to hard to be his mentor but can't.

I also love how they were able to bring in the Lupin's loved ones so many times over through the series. It makes me wonder if they already wrote all of the scenes out. (Including the reveal of Lupins V2) and filmed it all in one day. If not. that's major dedication for all the loved ones.

Everything about the plot is relevant. While there were some moments that felt like cop outs. I feel like they tried maybe one too many plot threads... It would've been cool if like around episode 43 the Lupins while seeing the Pats getting their butts kicked by something go. 'Where's Jackpot?!' and you know, being sentai watchers that know around episode 40 they do the movie tie in go. 'Oh this is the movie tie in episode...' and Kairi goes 'Oh he ran away... I don't know where he went.' with Noel saying. 'That will be something we deal with later.' Would've been a great enough set up for the Lupin V2 intro. Plus it would subvert our expectations. Which is what this season did a pretty great job in doing.

We are used to Sentais throwing away interesting plot elements early. Remember when the Kyoryugers had no clue who each other were? For.... four episodes? I can probably look at the episode discussions from 1-6 and see all the theories of the Lupins and Pats working together and throwing away that plot element. I also remember the assumption was made around Noel's introduction that he would be the key they work together.

We only go their clusterfuck mech 4 times this season... previous seasons when they introduce the big papa. It's basically used every episode. Hell, we went the final 9 episodes without it. When you'd expect they use it the most!

Things I wish they did.
1. I would've loved at least two episodes with similar plots.
a. An episode where Kei has like a flu or something and when a monster attacks. Nigou and Sangou has to team up with the Lupins. We end up getting a Red-Blue-Yellow-Nigou-Sangou-X roll call and pose like they were a regular sentai.
b. A similar episode with Kairi out of commission with a Ichi-Ni-San-Blue-Yellow-X rollcall.
2. I actually would've liked it for the teams work together more around when Destra got defeated.
3. It would've been cool to see the Lupin V2 transform at least once.

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Re: LupinRanger VS PatRanger series discussion (Spoilers)

Post by takenoko » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:32 pm

That's a pretty good list of missed opportunities. Yeah, some different character combinations between the two teams would have been real cool. Also, Lupin Generation 2 transformations would have been nice. They probably didn't want to make a female LupinBlue costume though.

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Post by Kuchiri » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:38 pm

I mean I think we only had the two team's roll call twice? Three times if you want to count Sangou/Yellow early on.

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Re: LupinRanger VS PatRanger series discussion (Spoilers)

Post by dancercotillion » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:51 pm

They were definitely going in a "Kogure has something else going on" direction, and then the immediate next episode after "Kogure smirks at the end and the show makes this seem menacing somehow" was "lol Kogure was bosozoku when he was younger, but also a fundamental part of his personality is being pathetically helpful, because those character traits totally mesh with what we've seen thus far" which was, I think, the point where they decided to abandon whatever they had planned for him and go with "no he's actually really a good guy who isn't going to betray the Lupins at all because he's just so earnest and caring."

I've read some of the original Arsene Lupin stories, and they're very careful about showing Lupin as being a thief who will steal anything from anyone and play games with his pursuers and victims, but to also take a minute (even to his own peril) to stop and help people who need a hand because he's a gentleman as well as a thief. I was really expecting Kogure himself to be Arsene, that he had staged his own death and was using these angry children as cat's paws because he'd already been trounced once.
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Re: LupinRanger VS PatRanger series discussion (Spoilers)

Post by Catastrophe » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:30 pm

They definitely did try to make it seem Kogure had some ulterior motive early on. It actually really annoys me that they did that without doing anything with it at the end.

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Post by Kuchiri » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:42 pm

I mean, now you can take that smile as he leaves Jurer that he's happy he has a group of thieves who he can rely on. Instead of the whole "I'm evil!"

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Post by Lunagel » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:54 pm

I dunno, I think a lot of people just expected him to have something going on but I never really saw it. The support characters rarely get any kind of game-changing backstory and once Noel showed up it was pretty clear any sort of story Kogure was gonna get would be tied into Noel's story.

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Re: LupinRanger VS PatRanger series discussion (Spoilers)

Post by Cross » Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:00 am

when does the batch download usually done after the show ended?

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Re: LupinRanger VS PatRanger series discussion (Spoilers)

Post by takenoko » Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:42 am

Honestly, it's pretty arbitrary. I can try to take a look at it tomorrow since it's my day off.

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