Poll: What's your opinion of Lupin VS Pat?

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Poll runs till Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:48 pm

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Poll: What's your opinion of Lupin VS Pat?

Post by takenoko » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:48 pm


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Post by Catastrophe » Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:28 pm

It's pretty good so far. I nice an refreshing change of pace that Kyu failed to deliver.

I'm like the Pats more. They feel like better characters and Lupin Red is too cocky without being enjoyable.

Wish Hilltop got more screen time though.

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Post by takenoko » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:24 pm

I initially gave it a 4, but I think it deserves the 5. It's fun, the characters feel pretty good. Stuff is going on that's emotionally resonant and the cast in general feels pretty charismatic. It's certainly a breath of fresh air after the stagnate last few years. I just hope it can keep this up!

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Post by TypicalStandUser » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:24 pm

It's growing on me. I hope it goes well throughout the next few months or so.
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Re: Poll: What's your opinion of Lupin VS Pat?

Post by Kurokage X » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:50 am

so far I see it as a 4. Characters on both sides except Pat 1 are enjoyable to watch, pacing is fast, and story is doing good so far
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Post by xenoss » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:57 pm

Writing this at the time of EP8: Enjoying it so far. I liked their Sentai VS Sentai concept and the design of the suits and logos are great. They look different enough to be 2 different Sentai shows and yet similar enough to be the same show. Very well done. Even the theme song feels like 2 songs smashed together into 1 song. So I was excited to see this initially.

The writing so far has not yet let me down. It feels more like Kamen Rider writing than the more children oriented Sentai writing of old. The team is laying a lot of narrative ground work that will hopefully pay off in the future. What's the deal with the 2 teams and their devices, how are they different from the other Lupin Collections. What's the deal with Zamigo. When will the Lupinranger team be betrayed and their dreams crushed. etc.

So much fun this season. I really hope they can maintain this. The last time I liked a sentai show this much was GoBusters, which had a strong start. The tone change mid season really messed it up for me. Fingers crossed for this show.

In contrast, this season's Kamen Rider Build seems incoherent and unfocused in comparison. It doesn't seem like the writers can make up their minds on what story to tell or even how the riders work. A complete mess this season.

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Re: Poll: What's your opinion of Lupin VS Pat?

Post by Bomyne » Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:18 am

Gave it a 5.

I love the show, but I have to admit that the good guys fighting eachother motif is just starting to get a little tiresome. I'm not sure how they can maintain that motif for ~50 episodes.

That said, if they vary it up a little... having both teams working together on a case or against a Ganglar, while still mistrusting and disliking eachother, it could make an interesting plot.

I admit I have been pretty "Meh" about Sentai the last couple of seasons... I've watched them, but they didn't really thrill me... which is why I've been more focused on Kamen Rider (which IMO hasn't had a bad season yet. At least since W anyway).

This show had a strong start, and if they can make the motif more interesting... or change it up a little.... I'd love that.

Now... I need to go buy a VS Changer...
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Post by kangchan » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:41 am

Because this is Koumura Junko's work, so I will wait until episode 30 to see the story process... Lupin Pat now look like Zyuohger, begining with strong stat, interested, but no one can thought Zyuohger in the end has worst characters, boring story at all.

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Post by kangchan » Wed May 09, 2018 10:58 pm

This is the rating for first 13 episodes of Lupinranger VS Patranger, from Rangerboard:

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Kyuranger has lowest rating in Super Sentai history with 3%, so Lupinranger VS Patranger has a good start, hope the average will better than Kyuranger.

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Re: Poll: What's your opinion of Lupin VS Pat?

Post by takenoko » Wed May 09, 2018 11:14 pm

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Re: Poll: What's your opinion of Lupin VS Pat?

Post by Catastrophe » Thu May 10, 2018 3:10 am

I don't know how useful TV ratings are anymore. With so many alternate options for watching, it's probably better to look at toy sales for an indication of how well something is doing.

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Re: Poll: What's your opinion of Lupin VS Pat?

Post by kangchan » Thu May 10, 2018 3:27 am

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I don't know how useful TV ratings are anymore. With so many alternate options for watching, it's probably better to look at toy sales for an indication of how well something is doing.
If the rating in TV is too low, they have to cancel show or move it into another platform (Online, capble TV).

You know, for rating 3%, it's mean in 100 households only have 3 households watch this show. The advertisers don't want to spend their money to place their ads or sponsor in worst rating program. Bandai is main sponsor for Sentai / Rider show, but others is Honda, McDonald...

What's happen if Super Sentai rating is 1-2% and other show such as anime... is 4-8%? Toy sales are important for Tokusatsu show, but if rating Sentai / Rider is 1-2%, that mean they're not attract audiences anymore. The revenues of toy sales is turnover to Bandai, not TV Asahi or any advertisers. With the worst rating show, TV Asahi doesn't have any benefits at all. They have the rights to cancel the show if they want.

Look like American tv series, they cancel the show if rating too low, include long-time show such as some soap-opera shows.

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Re: Poll: What's your opinion of Lupin VS Pat?

Post by Catastrophe » Thu May 10, 2018 4:37 am

I know how ratings work. What I'm saying is that it becomes difficult to ascertain true viewership when its been shown that many people stream shows rather than watching broadcasts.

TV ratings for everything across the world are generally trending downwards because more and more people are cable cutting. And for Sentai/Rider, they aren't anything more than glorified toy commercials so as long as people still buy the merch, then it's okay.

Case in point is your post in the other thread with the ratings and toy sales. Kyoryuger had a low average rating but crushed every other series shown for toy sales. Ratings aren't the best endpoint measure for series success when you still pull 100 million dollars in toy money in.
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Re: Poll: What's your opinion of Lupin VS Pat?

Post by kangchan » Thu May 10, 2018 4:54 am

Catastrophe wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 4:37 am
I know how ratings work. What I'm saying is that it becomes difficult to ascertain true viewership when its been shown that many people stream shows rather than watching broadcasts.

TV ratings for everything across the world are generally trending downwards because more and more people are cable cutting. And for Sentai/Rider, they aren't anything more than glorified toy commercials so as long as people still buy the merch, then it's okay.
People still buy the toys, and revenue will turnover to Bandai, not TV Asahi, this is the problem for Super Hero Time at current.

If TV Asahi want to cancel the show, Toei and Bandai have to move to other channel or platform. Ultraman has the same cases, they move to many channels, reduce their episodes (50 to 12) until they come to TV Tokyo.

Maybe in future, Super Hero Time will move from TV Asahi to another channel?

Kyoryuger has average rating, not too low such as Zyuohger, Kyuranger.Rating is not best measures but if rating too low 1-2%, how TV Asahi can keep it if they don’t have any benefits? Or will Bandai share their revenues toy sales for them?

Just wait until Sentai show with rating of 1% and you can see how they cancel this longtine series.

I think the topic of rating and toy should be end at this post and just wait to see how this series come.

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Re: Poll: What's your opinion of Lupin VS Pat?

Post by TypicalStandUser » Fri May 25, 2018 8:08 pm

Another reason I'm watching is trying to piece out what Kogure/Jeeves could be up to. I hope to Zod, whatever he's planning, it's better than Fueki.
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