Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Training up a future generation of criminals
Forum rules
LupinRanger VS PatRanger Wiki Link

< KyuuRanger | LupinRanger VS PatRanger | Ryusoulger >

Spoiler rules: No posting information about unreleased stuff. Preview and movie promo discussion must be in marked spoiler tags.

Ratings

Poll ended at Mon May 07, 2018 2:08 am

☆☆☆☆☆
2
12%
☆☆☆☆
5
29%
☆☆☆
7
41%
☆☆
2
12%
1
6%
 
Total votes: 17
User avatar
Boukensilver06
ZAIA Tool
ZAIA Tool
Posts: 74
Joined: Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:57 pm
Favorite series: Kamen Rider Blade
2nd Favorite Series: Dekaranger
Alignment: Chaotic Good
Location: Colorado, USA

Re: Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Post by Boukensilver06 »

takenoko wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:40 am I was wondering whether it was that or one of the other car sentai items
First the lamp from Magiranger, now this from Go-Onger, and the baddies from ToQger? Are they just recycling stuff from older sentai to help save money?
Image
User avatar
takenoko
Team Baron
Team Baron
Posts: 36703
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Gender: Toast
Favorite series: All of them
Alignment: Neutral
My boom: stick
Quote: <Lunagel> That's Toei's dumb fault
Type: ISFJ Protector
Location: Yami ni umare, yami ni kisu
Contact:

Re: Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Post by takenoko »

They're just homages
rubius
7X
Posts: 98
Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:34 pm
Favorite series: Kamen Rider Zi-O
2nd Favorite Series: Lupinranger vs. Patranger
Dreamy: Patren Sango/Magine
Favorite Actor?: N/A
Favorite Band: Rider Girls/Chips

Lupin vs. Pat - Notice 12 Release

Post by rubius »

have been looking forward to this episode and aside from the weird humor i have to mention that the movie thugs are using crow masks from Toqger and the collection piece is the go-roader GT from Go-Onger. is it just me or are they running out of original prop ideas or what?
Last edited by Lunagel on Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Merged with episode 11 release thread
Finished Shows
Kamen Rider:Heisei Riders - Saber
Super Sentai: From Zyuranger to Kiramager
Other: Justirizer, Rescue Force/Fire

Haven't watched a Tokusatsu I didn't like :mrgreen:
User avatar
takenoko
Team Baron
Team Baron
Posts: 36703
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Gender: Toast
Favorite series: All of them
Alignment: Neutral
My boom: stick
Quote: <Lunagel> That's Toei's dumb fault
Type: ISFJ Protector
Location: Yami ni umare, yami ni kisu
Contact:

Re: Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Post by takenoko »

From the front page:
Spoiler
1) GoGoV?
2) GekiRanger easy
3) Kyouryuuger easy
4) MegaRanger?
5) Hmm, dunno
6) Those jags... seems like it should be familiar
7) Goseiger?
8) GaoRanger, that tail
9) Hmm, dunno
10) Abaranger
11) dunno
12) dunno
13) Go-Onger, looks like the color?
14) Hmmm?
15) I dunno
16) Shinkenger so easy
17) hm
18)ZyuRanger? I vaguely remember the kanji on the bottom
19) DaiRanger?
20) Damn that looks familiar.
21) No idea
22) Kakuranger?
23) Maybe this is ZyuRanger
24) Ninninger
25) dunno
26) fire? dunno
27) dunno
ViRGE
Save the life
Posts: 2660
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:35 pm

Re: Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Post by ViRGE »

Oh dear. Well that episode ended up being about as bad as I feared based on the previews.

Cross dressing the men is a Sentai staple, but somehow they've made it dumber than ever. And as a result the episode is an exercise in running down the cock with little in the way of drama or effective humor to show for it. It just didn't work.

I will however give the writers credit for catching the Lupins with a spotlight. It's appropriate for the setting and a good callback to their roll call. Tsukasa and Keiichirou, uh, taking inventory of themselves the first time around also admittedly got a smirk out of me. But that's pretty much the only time the humor worked.

I suppose credit is also due for working in a bit of a Sakuya backstory in there. I say a "bit" because it was ultimately quite brief. And really, it did a disservice to the character to have it take place in such a lame episode. Sakuya needs a proper dramatic episode to build up the character without the forced humor.
takenoko wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:08 amAlt Title: Must have been real cheap filming it on the Tokai movie lot...
Someone else mentioned that this was a filler episode, and I have to agree. They filmed entirely on a movie lot, and then they clearly didn't spend much on props or costuming. Tsukasa's civilian suit in particular looked awful; it clearly didn't fit her properly, like a kid in his father's jacket. The guys also didn't look good, but that's a bit more excusable since 6ft tall women's wear is a little less common...
Were there no viable candidates before Sakuya?
That would be my assumption. Though ultimately it's a matter of the story needing to fit a rookie ranger in the group somehow.
Loved the LupinRangers fighting with their Batman grapplehooks. More creative ways to fight like this please.
Yes please!
I get that the PatRangers are supposed to be a bit of the comedy relief. But doesn't it seem like they suffer a bit from the body horror stuff a bit too much? First they're all forced to combine into one person (why? Also, have they done that again recently?) and now their genitals are forcibly being added or removed against their wishes. Does the writer just sit around going "Hmmm, what can I do to the PatRangers this week?"
I feel like this is a consequence of the show still struggling to write for competing teams of heroes. The Lupins are thieves, but they aren't bad guys. So they need to be portrayed as sympathetic. Which would be a lot harder if the Pats were straight-laced and highly-effective officers. So instead they get to be the comic relief, both because the Lupins can't and because it brings them down a peg so that they're on the same level as the Lupins.
Lunagel wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:33 pm That... was a bit of a trainwreck. I mean, there were good parts, and Sakuya's flashback was cute, but overall maybe a bit tone deaf?
I'd argue more than a bit tone deaf. :?
And the forced boob smothering of the mook was just awkward. Is this really what kids want to see?
i suppose it's a bit of a truth-in-television moment; that would stop me cold in my tracks as well. But it was definitely unnecessary, and I feel like the writers had to be struggling for material at that point. :|
It'd be easier if the MOTW looked more like a peacock...
It would be easier if the MOTW looked like anything. It kind of sort of looks like a peacock, and I absolutely cannot place the rest. It's like a wireframe sculpture come to life.
locuas wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:26 am I wonder if changing actors for the gender-bent patrangers would have made the scenes less............ not funny.
At this point I don't think it could have hurt.
Go-On Macaroni wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:35 pm
The mecha fight was also great, with the suits, sparks, and dirt flying when they used Hammer.
Spoiler
Image
Image
The mecha fight was kind of odd. Overall I agree with you, they got a number of fantastic action shots in there. But I can't figure out why the director was in such a rush to get through the fight. They cut through all of those beauty shots in a very rapid fashion. The whole fight was over in less than 2 minutes. In a better paced season, a well-filmed fight like that would be given a bit more time to progress and to better show off the product (both in the filming sense and the toy sense).
njb
Strongest Brave
Strongest Brave
Posts: 339
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:52 pm
Favorite series: Timeranger
2nd Favorite Series: Fourze

Re: Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Post by njb »

takenoko wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:36 pm From the front page:
Spoiler
1) GoGoV?
2) GekiRanger easy
3) Kyouryuuger easy
4) MegaRanger?
5) Hmm, dunno
6) Those jags... seems like it should be familiar
7) Goseiger?
8) GaoRanger, that tail
9) Hmm, dunno
10) Abaranger
11) dunno
12) dunno
13) Go-Onger, looks like the color?
14) Hmmm?
15) I dunno
16) Shinkenger so easy
17) hm
18)ZyuRanger? I vaguely remember the kanji on the bottom
19) DaiRanger?
20) Damn that looks familiar.
21) No idea
22) Kakuranger?
23) Maybe this is ZyuRanger
24) Ninninger
25) dunno
26) fire? dunno
27) dunno
Spoiler
Column 1: Patranger, Gekiranger, Kyoryuger, Zyuranger, Gorenger, Gokaiger
2: Carranger, Gaoranger, Lupinranger, Abaranger, Turboranger, Magiranger
3: Go-onger, Timeranger, Goseiger, Shinkenger, ToQGer, Dekaranger
4: Dairanger, Zyuohger, Megaranger, Ninninger, Ohranger
5: Hurricaneger, Kyuranger, Kakuranger, Boukenger
Watching:
- SS Kiramei, Deka, Ninnin
- KR Saber
Finished:
- SS Time, Shinken to Toq, Jyuoh to Ryusoul
- KR Decade to Zero-One
User avatar
takenoko
Team Baron
Team Baron
Posts: 36703
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Gender: Toast
Favorite series: All of them
Alignment: Neutral
My boom: stick
Quote: <Lunagel> That's Toei's dumb fault
Type: ISFJ Protector
Location: Yami ni umare, yami ni kisu
Contact:

Re: Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Post by takenoko »

Luna, how did we do? Do you have an answer key?
User avatar
Lunagel
Mofu~
Posts: 11182
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:09 am
Favorite series: Magiranger
2nd Favorite Series: Gekiranger
Location: Japan

Re: Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Post by Lunagel »

Spoiler
Image
Answers:
Spoiler
1-6 Pat, Geki, Kyouryuu, Zyu, Go, Gokai
7-12 Car, Gao, Lupin, Aba,Turbo, Magi
13-18 Go-On, Time, Gosei, Shinken, ToQ, Deka
19-23 Dai, Jyuoh, Mega, Ninnin, Oh
24-27 Hurricane, Kyuu, Kaku, Bouken
njb got them all right
User avatar
takenoko
Team Baron
Team Baron
Posts: 36703
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Gender: Toast
Favorite series: All of them
Alignment: Neutral
My boom: stick
Quote: <Lunagel> That's Toei's dumb fault
Type: ISFJ Protector
Location: Yami ni umare, yami ni kisu
Contact:

Re: Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Post by takenoko »

Damn, I only got 7. I completely forgot about this year's sentai and I forgot there were three ninja sentai.
resop2
ZAIA Tool
ZAIA Tool
Posts: 1003
Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:25 am
Favorite series: Shabon 5
2nd Favorite Series: Treasure 5

Re: Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Post by resop2 »

I enjoyed this episode. It was a comedy episode so they pulled out the stops and did flinch at going for any joke no matter how bad or tasteless. I laughed.

So, not only do we get kabedon we also get agokei (chin grabbing).

When Kudo Haruka (Umika) was an idol her gimmick was that she was a "ikemen" (pretty boy) character. So, I am not sure if the Lupin's had been hit with the gender swap if there would have been a big difference with her (she could have pulled it off with acting, but her appearance would have stayed the same).
Farr
7X
Posts: 76
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:52 pm
Favorite series: Blade / Deka
2nd Favorite Series: Gaim~W / Shinken
Dreamy: Umeko / Hana
Alignment: Neutral Good
Type: INFP Healer

Re: Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Post by Farr »

takenoko wrote: Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:08 am I get that the PatRangers are supposed to be a bit of the comedy relief. But doesn't it seem like they suffer a bit from the body horror stuff a bit too much? First they're all forced to combine into one person (why? Also, have they done that again recently?) and now their genitals are forcibly being added or removed against their wishes. Does the writer just sit around going "Hmmm, what can I do to the PatRangers this week?"
I believe ever since they got Bike they use it as a Finisher, it's not like Goody is that reliable to use for this purpose anyways, and the Lupin's haven't used him that much either iirc once as a Finisher and the one Time to clone Blue/Yellow.

To recap:
1.) ---
2.) Ugou
3.) Triple Lupin Red
4.) Ugou
5.) ---
6.) Biker - Ichigo Solo
7.) Cyclone - Lupin Red with Support Fire
8.) --- (Triple Lupin Red used as Proxies for Yellow/Blue)
9.) Biker - Ichigo Solo
10.) Triple Charge Baton's from Pat's
11.) Biker - Ichigo with Support Fire

So we have 11 Sodes, 8 Finishers, with 5(not counting Biker twice since it's essentially the same even with back-up fire) different ones so far, but I must say, as bad as Ugou was as a Design choice at least it was a Team Finisher, Cyclone/Biker with optional Support Fire is kinda meh in it's own Way.
User avatar
ryujin
Gabu
Posts: 290
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:21 am
Favorite series: MagiRanger
2nd Favorite Series: Ultraman Zero
Dreamy: Matsuyama Mary
Favorite Actor?: Masahiro Inoue
Favorite Band: SCANDAL
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
My boom: PS4
Quote: R/B is just ORB without the O and Tiga is just Taiga without the A ... tabun :P
Type: ISTJ Inspector
Location: Philippines

Re: Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Post by ryujin »

Would kids get the scissors being female and hammer being male bit lol!

Compared to the last episode, this seemed weak and more like an anime filler

All i'm waiting for now is the introduction of any of the sea based vehicles, assuming there's any or will this series completely ditch it, cause i'm expecting that none of the two existing teams will be using them if they hold true to their respective vehicle themes (Lupin - air based & Patran - land based)
User avatar
takenoko
Team Baron
Team Baron
Posts: 36703
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Gender: Toast
Favorite series: All of them
Alignment: Neutral
My boom: stick
Quote: <Lunagel> That's Toei's dumb fault
Type: ISFJ Protector
Location: Yami ni umare, yami ni kisu
Contact:

Re: Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Post by takenoko »

ryujin wrote: Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:46 pm Would kids get the scissors being female and hammer being male bit lol!
I didn't even think about that. That's pretty groan worthy if that's intentional.
Catastrophe
ZECT
ZECT
Posts: 5230
Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:47 pm
Favorite series: Kyoryuger
2nd Favorite Series: W
Quote: "When I first started, I knew everything about nothing and have progressed in the subsequent two decades, realising that now I know practically nothing about everything"

Re: Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Post by Catastrophe »

Well, I didn't really think they'd go for the missing dick jokes in a kids show either. But here we are.
User avatar
takenoko
Team Baron
Team Baron
Posts: 36703
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Gender: Toast
Favorite series: All of them
Alignment: Neutral
My boom: stick
Quote: <Lunagel> That's Toei's dumb fault
Type: ISFJ Protector
Location: Yami ni umare, yami ni kisu
Contact:

Re: Lupin VS Pat 11 Released!

Post by takenoko »

Missing dick jokes
Post Reply

Return to “Kaitou Sentai LupinRanger VS Keisatsu Sentai PatRanger”