KR Zi-O 30 released

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Re: KR Zi-O 30 released

Post by BreadToku » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:09 am

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Wait, so that was Oma day? The thing the show has been beating us over the head about for 3 months now? WTH?

I'm really quite miffed. It feels like the show just aborted a major arc for no apparent reason, and decided to take Another Woz with it out of the blue. It's giving me plot whiplash.

And why is Zi-O Trinity so damn ugly?! We just had beautiful Zi-O II, can't we just keep that for longer? :(
I guess *technically* Geiz and Sougo resolved their differences in the last arc, so the battle to see who would beat the other wasn't going to happen anymore. And also White Woz did say something about three ridewatches coming together to form a power that shouldn't exist or something along those lines. Mind you it's still a terrible explanation. But yeah, it does still feel like it really just came and went after all the build-up.

Also the new form being a fusion at least gives it a possibility of not showing up the older suits all the time? I mean I'll expect it to be in the climatic fight for the next several arcs, but past that I don't think the show would make it so that we don't get to see our multiple riders in action in favour of just one suit doing all the work. It'd just seem like poor marketing to me.

EDIT: Also why does Oma Zi-O have a Drive Ridewatch? Didn't Geiz steal that from him? Or is that ridewatch actually the one that Sougo is gonna get in the present, but the future version of that- you know what, it doesn't matter. I hope we see Chase again at some point.
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Re: KR Zi-O 30 released

Post by Izanagi_Izanami12345 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:03 am

White Woz, that was an okay end for him, though still not properly resolved in my opinion. Considering how mysterious he was and how shitty he treated his supposed savior, I was under the impression of something more from him, but looks like that was it. Good bye White Woz.

And how Blade was resolved I personally don't know how to feel. I mean Blade's original ending was very strong and powerful, but it's also felt good that both Jokers become Human and they don't have to hide themselves anymore and I personally also like that direction, though i assume they would recover their powers in the end as Sougo walks in his own path, not Oma Zio's.

That said, I really like this series as they starts properly used the lore and the guest stars for the past riders, something I wish they did for Fourze, Faiz, Wizard, and OOO.

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Re: KR Zi-O 30 released

Post by Catastrophe » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:19 pm

Trinity form is lame. It's a W and Climax form rip off all in one.

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Re: KR Zi-O 30 released

Post by whitehelm » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:23 am

BreadToku wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:09 am
EDIT: Also why does Oma Zi-O have a Drive Ridewatch? Didn't Geiz steal that from him? Or is that ridewatch actually the one that Sougo is gonna get in the present, but the future version of that- you know what, it doesn't matter. I hope we see Chase again at some point.
Yeah, the one Geiz has was stolen from Oma Zi-O in the future, and Sougo needs to get a present one that will eventually become Geiz's watch. We already had this situation with Ghost.

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Re: KR Zi-O 30 released

Post by PDA » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:13 pm

Catastrophe wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:19 pm
Trinity form is lame. It's a W and Climax form rip off all in one.
Also decade thing "this may tickle" with geiz and woz becoming giant watchs straped in zio

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Re: KR Zi-O 30 released

Post by Kuchiri » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:35 pm

I like Trinity. Who wants to bet that Sougo fixing the clock inside trinity when it was going towards him was actually a blooper, and his face was the actor's real reaction when straighten back up.

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Re: KR Zi-O 30 released

Post by takenoko » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:08 am

Kuchiri wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:35 pm
I like Trinity. Who wants to bet that Sougo fixing the clock inside trinity when it was going towards him was actually a blooper, and his face was the actor's real reaction when straighten back up.
I'd love it if that were the case. It looked so natural and so fitting for Sougo that I just thought it was on purpose.

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Re: KR Zi-O 30 released

Post by darkmage02 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:53 am

I'm sorry but I can't give this episode more than 3 stars. Last episode was a 5 for me, but all that build up leads to a lacklustre conclusion. I wished Blade & Chalice had more character moments and their confrontations were more than just raging fist fights. Yes I get the whole Joker instinct thing but they need to have some form of dialogue between them to really make their reunion more impactful. Not just screaming "Kazuma!!! Hajime!!!!" all the time.

I also not quite sure how to feel about the resolution to Blade's story. Like Take said, this half-hearted ending did take away the original weight and impact of of the series' ending, which I considered my personal top 5 favourite KR ending. I'm happy for Kenzaki & Hajime not needing to carry the weight of the world on their shoulders anymore, but it doesn't feel earned the way the series' ending did.

Two more things I'm rather salty about - DiEnd & White Woz in this episode. We barely get a total of 1 min of DiEnd this episode, which is a big let down considering how hyped up he was in the previous episode. I hope the revelation in the end means we'll see DiEnd playing a bigger part in the plot moving forward otherwise I'll feel extremely cheated. Which leads me to White Woz. Man, I'm both pissed and disappointed with the way White Woz's story concluded. He is by far more interesting than the 3 Timejackers combined, and his sadism would've made him a great 3rd act villain. But no, they decided to reveal that he did what he did because he didn't have friends (???), wrap up his story, and killed him off. I like the idea of his timeline getting erased with Sougo heading towards an unknown future, but like with Blade's ending, it didn't feel earned. I see so many wasted potential with White Woz's storyline - they could also do a whole redemption arc and maybe eventually have him and Black Woz teamup. We'll never find out, cause Toei can't give us nice things.

What I do like, and gave this episode its 3 stars, are Sougo & the Blade characters. I feel like the writers finally know how to properly write and use legacy Riders, and play around with existing Rider lores instead of erasing them off. Seeing the Blade characters brought back so much nostalgia, and while I wasn't a big fan of how they ended the story, it's still 1000 times better than what they did with previous legacy Riders. As for Sougo, his speech to White Woz is perhaps the most mature of Sougo I've ever seen - and it also hints at how cleverly devious he can be (signs of Oma Zi-O here). I will love to see this kind of Sougo moving forward - it signifies his growth exponentially & will make me feel more invested in his character.
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Re: KR Zi-O 30 released

Post by Dengar » Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:27 am

BreadToku wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:09 am
Also why does Oma Zi-O have a Drive Ridewatch? Didn't Geiz steal that from him? Or is that ridewatch actually the one that Sougo is gonna get in the present, but the future version of that- you know what, it doesn't matter. I hope we see Chase again at some point.
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Re: KR Zi-O 30 released

Post by rubius » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:50 pm

sure they got blade and need agito, drive, den-O, Kabuto, Kiva and Hibiki but my question is... when the hell did they get the watch from Kuuga? the first heisei rider i mean come on, he's the first rider when decade uses the final form ride. i'm guessing sougo gets kuuga's watch in the movie or something but still this kind of blunder really pisses me off. i still like the series don't get me wrong but it's like when your reading a book and you stop in the middle and start reading the ending.
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Re: KR Zi-O 30 released

Post by TypicalStandUser » Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:43 pm

rubius wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:50 pm
sure they got blade and need agito, drive, den-O, Kabuto, Kiva and Hibiki but my question is... when the hell did they get the watch from Kuuga? the first heisei rider i mean come on, he's the first rider when decade uses the final form ride. i'm guessing sougo gets kuuga's watch in the movie or something but still this kind of blunder really pisses me off. i still like the series don't get me wrong but it's like when your reading a book and you stop in the middle and start reading the ending.
Please wait for the home release of Heisei Generations Forever. Said movie will explain how Sougo got that specific Ride Watch.
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Re: KR Zi-O 30 released

Post by Kurow » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:13 pm

Late for this episode but this gets a 5/5 because of the Trinity iwae was so good and because Diend got an OP treasure for his collection.
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