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KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:23 pm
by takenoko
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Last week's Zi-O rating: 4.43 / 5 (14 votes)

Alt Title: Maybe start Rider at Christmas

Every god damn year Toei. Ex-Aid, garbage until the Christmas episode. And here, Zi-O appears to have taken another jump in quality for their Christmas episode.

Sougo has scenes in this episode that made me wish they were in the first episode. Like Sougo is likeable in this episode, and it's pretty good. Like, this is how Sougo should have been all along, maybe?

The Sougo/Geiz stuff, it's totally unearned and there's a million ways they could have set it up better, but the moment itself was really good, so I'll give it a pass. Hopefully this dynamic will do a better job walking the tightrope in the future?

Mr. Decade wasn't in the episode as much as I'd like, but he's got some choice scenes. Like basically joining the fray and just going "Hmmmm, which side should I join, 'cause I'm Decade and I give no fucks." So good.

Woz is stepping up his game too.

Heck, they even let Tsukuyomi fire the gun and have her save the guys. It would have been nice if she acted as support, but still, I'll take what I can get considering Toei Riders hates women.

"I will become a demon king who will save the world!" Okay Thanos.

Giving this episode a 5 star rating, since it's gotten me genuinely excited to see the next episode. I mean, I've been excited since Decade joined the mix, but now I get to see good main characters too.

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Re: KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 5:24 am
by OOOKaiser
Is it just me or have they changed writers all of a sudden. Because the past several episodes have particularly been good or maybe the appearance of decade in the show has gotten me so excited that I'm ignoring Zi-O in general.

Re: KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:25 pm
by takenoko
OOOKaiser wrote:
Mon Dec 24, 2018 5:24 am
Is it just me or have they changed writers all of a sudden. Because the past several episodes have particularly been good or maybe the appearance of decade in the show has gotten me so excited that I'm ignoring Zi-O in general.
Indeed???
http://wiki.tvnihon.com/wiki/Kamen_Ride ... Chronology

Re: KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 1:24 pm
by TypicalStandUser
The Young King did it, but it’s not enough. The Jackers still exist with intentions to get rid of Sougo, Woz is now on contingency mode, trying to get Sougo back to the path, while Tsukasa is still vested in taking out Sougo at his best.

It’s only by saving a kid and Geiz convincing Sougo to pursue his dream that the young king regains his will to fight. In spite of this, the future has not been changed. Hope the gang finds out the coordinates of those Dai Mazines.

Good. The third rider is coming.

A question: is Masahiro Inoue done with this show or he’s going to be a recurring character in future episodes??

Alright episode. Huh… Starninger’s back next episode. Appropriate.

Re: KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:00 am
by Xivitai
I really want to punch someone for their portrayal of Decade. Using Final Attack Ride for Big and Bind? Using water magic in Fire Style Wizard? Are they retarded or hired people who know Decade only by wiki?

Re: KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:57 am
by BreadToku
I loved this episode, and it's a very strong finish to this first arc of the show. It's a great service for both Sougo's and Geiz's characters. The former has a renewed resolution towards his goals now that he is fully aware of the possible terrible future he is responsible for, and the latter finally seems to be settled on Zi-O's side but is still willing to fight him should the need arise down the line. I'm feeling rather good about this dynamic moving forward.

Decade is probably going to disappear until the next major shake-up in the story, but wow did he leave an impression in just these few episodes. He ought to have used Wizard's ability to turn into four when Zi-O Double Game showed up! Speaking of, that was a nice revival of one of my favourite power-up forms.

I'm also especially fond of that insert song. It's a much calmer track than the usual song that accompanies an action-packed scene, which makes sense since it was meant for Zi-O regaining new confidence in himself. That it came in at the same time as Woz's wonderful declaration may have helped it's impact.

Can't wait for next week though, all sorts of wild stuff happening.
Xivitai wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:00 am
I really want to punch someone for their portrayal of Decade. Using Final Attack Ride for Big and Bind? Using water magic in Fire Style Wizard? Are they retarded or hired people who know Decade only by wiki?
They wanted to show off Wizard's powers without making new Attack Ride cards. I get bugged by little inconsistencies too, but that is the silliest reason to get as bothered as you are.

Re: KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:58 am
by takenoko
Come on, let's not disavow people's reactions to stuff.

Re: KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:13 am
by Xivitai
BreadToku wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:57 am

They wanted to show off Wizard's powers without making new Attack Ride cards. I get bugged by little inconsistencies too, but that is the silliest reason to get as bothered as you are.
And miss a chance to sell more merchandise? Nah, it's not the way they roll. They just hired ppl who don't know they way around franchise...

Re: KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:40 am
by PDA
what exactly geiz have inside his mind? nothing ?

geiz: i gonna destroy zi-o belt so oma zi-o never happen(plus all his and tsukiomi futures…)

and then i blink the eye and then geiz is giving his own belt to zi-o because….well…this series dont make any sense but decade is saving zi-o audience lol

good episode but geiz just giving his belt to sougo was strange...

Re: KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:13 pm
by resop2
Some things that we have learned:

* The rider belts are interchangeable. Geiz can use Shogo's and Shogo can use Geiz's.

* Woz has the ability to create the rider belts.

* Geiz's mind changes every other episode.

* Dramatic pepper eating is dramatic.

Questions:

* The Time Mazine's just appear out of Akane Tendou Hammer Space? Come on Toei. Why not sell chibi Time Mazines that Oha and Heure can pull out of their pockets and shout dramatic catch phrases to make them henshin?

* Why don't the Timejackers just make Another Zi-O out of Shogo? Or, would that make too much sense?

Re: KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:26 pm
by HowlingSnail
On the topic of getting Wizard wrong, they didn't use the existing sound for him from the CSM Decade Driver, they used a new one. And AGAIN broke tradition by including voice clips.

Re: KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:20 pm
by WannaFantaMan
Lawling at the title for the next episode, "HAPPY NEW WOZ!!!" xD

Re: KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:47 pm
by Catastrophe
I'm not on board with this. There is just such such flip flopping with the characters. Geiz gets what he wanted. Oma Zi-O is gone and it was easy enough and then he's the one to get Zi-O to change his mind back?

It's clear Woz has some ulterior motive.

Re: KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:01 pm
by Kuchiri
Xivitai wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:13 am
BreadToku wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:57 am

They wanted to show off Wizard's powers without making new Attack Ride cards. I get bugged by little inconsistencies too, but that is the silliest reason to get as bothered as you are.
And miss a chance to sell more merchandise? Nah, it's not the way they roll. They just hired ppl who don't know they way around franchise...
I thought... it was established before. Decade don't give no fucks.
Also more than likely whatever gave him a significant power jump has allowed him to streamline all the powers without needing form rides. Nothing said in-universe that Wizard had to be in different forms to use the power, it could've been a limitation of his power at that time. That's probably why Oma-ZIo just needs to touch the ride watches to use their power instead of inserting them into the belt. He had 50 years of rider powers. Give Decade another twenty years and he probably wouldn't need Ride Cards.

Re: KR Zi-O 16 released

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:35 am
by Cross
any1 saw that theres shocker's goon(or something else) lurking behind omazi-o chair at the end?
some kinda easter egg??