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KR Zi-O 25 released

Post by takenoko » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:51 pm

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Alt Title: A new rival appears

At the halfway point, it seems like we've got a new recurring character. And I guess he has a chip on his shoulder against Sougo.

But how can anyone hate an innocent man-child like Sougo???

Pretty cool that Another Zi-O has to collect his Ride Watch powers the same way Sougo does. Gee, I wonder if they're going to explain how Zi-O and Another Zi-O can coexist~

Rider Woz, please don't use Question Mark's powers again, I hate that.

Kind of wish the stakes were better set up in this series. Like it'd feel better if there were something linking the different Another Rider stuff together or if there were a countdown till Oma Day and not just some vague time in the future.

The mention of Regulus confirms that Lucky is the cause of Oma Day.

So I keep seeing stuff about April. I guess that's when the next big story thing will happen. Also, April 24, 2009 was when Sougo's parents die. What will happen on the 10th anniversary of that event I wonder? (Also, it's weird that April 24 isn't a Sunday in 2009 or 2019)

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Wait, how does Another Zi-O not just get defeated by Zi-O? That's the whole point of the Another Rider weakness being the actual Rider.

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Post by TypicalStandUser » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:41 pm

Riders... *ROAR*

So, the MOTW/Hiryu is someone who knows Sougo but the latter has forgotten about him. He also screws the rules like a champ and knows something that Sougo might be oblivious of.

Junichirou and Tsuku-chan give out info of an accident that involved Sougo, his parents & Hiryuu. I want to see more.

AND the wham question is asked. This kind of Chaotic Evil is not healthy for Heure and Ora.

Yeah, Geiz. Not a good time for your new trinket to come alive. Wait next week.
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Post by snowking666 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:40 am

takenoko wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:51 pm
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Last week's Zi-O rating: 3.64 / 5 (14 votes)

Alt Title: A new rival appears

At the halfway point, it seems like we've got a new recurring character. And I guess he has a chip on his shoulder against Sougo.
But how can anyone hate an innocent man-child like Sougo???
Pretty cool that Another Zi-O has to collect his Ride Watch powers the same way Sougo does. Gee, I wonder if they're going to explain how Zi-O and Another Zi-O can coexist~
Rider Woz, please don't use Question Mark's powers again, I hate that.
Kind of wish the stakes were better set up in this series. Like it'd feel better if there were something linking the different Another Rider stuff together or if there were a countdown till Oma Day and not just some vague time in the future.
The mention of Regulus confirms that Lucky is the cause of Oma Day.
So I keep seeing stuff about April. I guess that's when the next big story thing will happen. Also, April 24, 2009 was when Sougo's parents die. What will happen on the 10th anniversary of that event I wonder? (Also, it's weird that April 24 isn't a Sunday in 2009 or 2019)

Edit:
Wait, how does Another Zi-O not just get defeated by Zi-O? That's the whole point of the Another Rider weakness being the actual Rider.
Zi-O started on 2018 while another zi-o is on 2019. I think that is the reason another zi-o is not defeated. They did zoom on 2019 on another zi-o face and belt.
My guess, Oma will happen on 30th April as Emperor Akihito is set to abdicate his throne on that day. April is also symbolic for kamen rider as the show 1st premier on April too.

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Re: KR Zi-O 25 released

Post by resop2 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:21 am

There is not a entry on the main page for the torrent/discussion yet.

Are they giving Heure and Oha the same wishy-washy-ness that Geiz has? It's one thing to be shocked at Schwartz's evilness in public as a ruse, but to give blatant baby face reactions in private?

I wonder if Sougo's high school had a course on how not to act like a creeper and Sougo slept through it?

So, Sougo lives in a clock store, the Timejackers live in a penthouse, and team White Woz live in a shrine with a kicking view? No wonder no one wants to visit Sougo.
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The mention of Regulus confirms that Lucky is the cause of Oma Day.
Does this mean that we will get Another Kyuranger?
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Rider Woz, please don't use Question Mark's powers again, I hate that.
I was just thinking today before I watched what would happen if you asked a question to Question Mark that could not be answered either way without a contradiction? I guess the answer is that Question Mark system would not answer.

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Re: KR Zi-O 25 released

Post by takenoko » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:53 am

In my defense, I made the post, but I guess I didn't hit post. This is not my week lol. Sorry guys.

You know what, I'm glad quiz's powers fail spectacularly. What a dumb power.

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Post by resop2 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:09 pm

takenoko wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:53 am
You know what, I'm glad quiz's powers fail spectacularly. What a dumb power.
I still think that quiz's power will be the ultimate tool for sorting out which direction Sougo will take.

For example: Final battle between Geiz and Sougo - "Okay Geiz: I will let you win. I will allow you to attack me with Quiz's finisher and I won't even transform, so at the very least I will be too injured to become the Demon King. But, when you do the attack, you must ask 'Will the future created by Geiz Revive be better than the future created by Oma Zi-O?'. If Quiz answers yes then I will accept that your future is better. But, if it answers no, then you will fall on your butt."

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Re: KR Zi-O 25 released

Post by PDA » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:54 pm

quiz power is much goofy imo

finally history is becoming more serious, i hope that scharwtz or someone have a good explanation to another zio exist while sougo still had memory and powers of zio

i like of that explanation about another zio 2019 and zio originally be 2018, plus i add something to it: zio no longer exist....zio II is something else, another entity i guess. but this raises another question: why dafuq another zio had foresee future power if this is zio II special feature

another build can tap on sparkling or genius while in another build base(and only) form? because another zio dont have power to defeat zio II.
zio II is totally overpower when compared to others riders, he just clear the floor with another ryuga and so on and now have same lvl than another zio with one guy who earn another zio power last week? because zio has at least 6 months of battles etc considering time flowing during series...

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Post by msf232 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:48 pm

takenoko wrote:
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Also, it's weird that April 24 isn't a Sunday in 2009 or 2019
I don’t understand, does Sunday has to do anything with an accident?

I have a feeling that Toei will explain the coexistence of Zi-O and Another Zi-O by going “oh, Zi-O is 2018 and Another Zi-O is 2019” without ever explaining why Another Zi-O is a 2019 rider in the first place. I do think that they WILL say something, no matter how lame it might be.
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Post by takenoko » Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:04 pm

Usually big days fall on a day of some significance or another. If not, then they tend to fall on Sundays, since that's when the show airs.

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Re: KR Zi-O 25 released

Post by darkmage02 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:08 am

This episode somehow works for me. The pacing of the story for this episode is a lot better than most, and we're slowly feeling the weight of Oma Day coming closer. Sougo's innocence here works better too, as Oma Day slowly draws nearer it's also getting harder for us to picture Sougo turning evil. I'm not sure if Hiryu is going to be a recurring character, but he's the first character to actually hate Sougo for the past instead of for what he might do in the future. I hope they give a proper backstory to their connection, regardless if he's a one-off or a recurring.

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Post by BreadToku » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:52 am

All I could think about during the fight near the end of the episode was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7N1ZqKZ50

Will we get an explanation of how the powers of Another Zi-O exist and why is it different from the usual rules of Another Riders? Judging by the pattern of this show so far, I'm thinking absolutely not. However, I can accept that Sougo can't just instantly beat him because he's just really tough and takes a bit more effort than that. And I do feel and hope that Hiryu will bring some interesting new developments for the show.
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Re: KR Zi-O 25 released

Post by ViRGE » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:38 pm

This was not a bad episode. But it was kind of weird? The show already has two other riders who want Sougo dead. And now there's a third? Everyone has it out for the poor kid. He needs some better allies/cheering section than Woz, who as great as he is, isn't especially helpful for solving problems.

And Toei is finally reusing the Another Rider suits. They're such amazingly crafted suits that it was only a matter of time; and in fact I'm a bit surprised it has taken this long. The way they're doing it is pretty imaginative as well (rather than just bringing back the old MOTWs as clones or whatever), so kudos to Toei on that.

Along those lines, the Another Zi-O suit may just be the creepiest one yet; he really does look like a monstrous version of Zi-O.:o

BTW, where are we on the ride watch count? Has Sougo officially collected all of the watches now, sans Ryuki?
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The mention of Regulus confirms that Lucky is the cause of Oma Day.
It makes sense. He wanted to be a king as well, so Zi-O is entirely spillover from Lucky destabilizing the galaxy's governments!
So I keep seeing stuff about April. I guess that's when the next big story thing will happen. Also, April 24, 2009 was when Sougo's parents die. What will happen on the 10th anniversary of that event I wonder? (Also, it's weird that April 24 isn't a Sunday in 2009 or 2019)
I keep expecting Toei to draw Oma day out until late April, and this certainly hints that they may do just that. If my understanding of the calendar is right, the current emperor steps down on April 30th, and the new era starts May 1st. So April 24th, 2019 happens to be exactly one week before that date. It's almost as if Toei is planning some kind of two-parter that will span the eras...
Wait, how does Another Zi-O not just get defeated by Zi-O? That's the whole point of the Another Rider weakness being the actual Rider.
And how the heck does he have Zi-O II powers when all the other Anothers up until now only had the powers of their respective base form?
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I wonder if Sougo's high school had a course on how not to act like a creeper and Sougo slept through it?
At this point I'm fairly sure Sougo has slept through most of high school. After all, why would he need to go to school if he's destined to be king? :roll:

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Post by takenoko » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:10 pm

So at this point, all the Neo Heisei Ride Watches have been gotten. None of the pre-Decade Riders have been obtained except Faiz. The Ryuki arc doesn't count since that was Another Ryuga.

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Re: KR Zi-O 25 released

Post by Kamen Rider Raven » Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:42 am

This was a pretty good episode. A rival character that's connected to Sougo and interesting.......so that means he'll probably last for this arc.

Also, I'm guessing the reason why Zio doesn't instantly beat Another Zio is the same reason why the two can co-exist. Singularity Points or something similar. I mean Zio's whole gimmick is time control. Of course he'd be retcon proof.

Plus, Zio's power set is insanely powerful. It would make sense that he wouldn't go down easily.

We're at the halfway point and things are still rather vague. I have a feeling the second half of the show is going to ramp up the story, but it's a little ridiculous that we're at episode 25 and it feels like nothing important has happened storywise. It's also a bit frustrating that the most interesting characters in this show are a passing through Kamen Rider from the last anniversary show and the main "villain" who has only showed up in THREE EPISODES. Villain is in quotes because quite frankly, we don't know a damn thing about Oma Zio.

I just REALLY want this show to live up to it's potential, but I'm slowly losing hope.

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Re: KR Zi-O 25 released

Post by Catastrophe » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:21 am

At least Another Zi-O as a concept is interesting. I wasn't particularly moved by anything else this episode.

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