hiro9796 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:10 pm
KRDangerousZombie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:09 pm
My feelings exactly. As much as i enjoyed kyouryuugreen being a collosal dickbag, i can't get past the "suicide as a solution" plot point 3 episodes in to this show for small children. ESPECIALLY when they specifically showed and named Aokigahara in episode 1.... What is the point they are trying to make here and is a children's show really the platform to make that point?
I am with you guys on this too. Trying to commit suicide is not something should be shown in Super Sentai series, where children are the major audiences. I really lose the interest to write what is good about this episode too. Sacrificing yourself for the sake of others is noble but doing it through suicide is more INSANE than asking someone to kill you. I would had it fine if Ui ask Asuna to kill her but trying to commit suicide is more scary. Oh and just wish Asuna had slapped Ui for her foolishness that is not even sensible.
This isn't even a 'but this is in a Kids show' matter either, since other kids shows have dealt with this in far more tasteful ways; The Gundam Franchise in example doing such better. And shows aimed at Teens and Adults who have dealt with the matter of suicide in the manner Ryusoulger has chosen to (For a Western series example, see the backlash against Netflix's "13 Reasons Why" from suicide prevention organizations and supporters) Has gotten the same type of flack for dealing with this subject matter this callously. Trying to frame unnecessary suicide as a noble act, as Ryusoulger contextually is doing...is really damn offensive for anyone who has dealt with Suicidal depression or had a loved one who has killed themselves. As often series who try to use it this way are trying to put on a guide of being dark and mature...only to end up treating it all in an exceedingly juvenile manner.
Again, this shouldn't be so surprising, this would be the...I think fourth or fifth time Modern Toei series has done this and the third sentai I can remember doing that by promoted the 'suicide is noble' nonsense (people mass-dropped Kyuranger when Lucky stated that crap early in its run), and it gets called out hard and fast when they do; but Toei's producers always seems to redirect the bile sent at a series for it to some other factor instead of a fundamental failing to think 'Hey, should we actually do this?'
I mean, Ui's been around these incidents and has *Watched* the Ryusoulger fix the issue without killing anyone or the victim offing themselves even though it's only been two episodes, what makes this all worse is *SHE KNEW* they could save her with no big deal and had *NO REASON* to act as she did. Though with the series opening with her screwing around in Aokigahara in a manner that last year was directly stated to be disrespectful, it does nothing but compound the error. Had this been a victim of the week doing this with no knowledge of that it...still wouldn't be okay, but it would've been more understandable, especially if Green and Black Encountered the victim first so they were working under a false presumption instead of someone who has regularly been interacting with the freaking cast to know better than that.
Those two likely have also sundered any goodwill towards them by viewers as well, considering encouraging someone to kill themselves through the actions one takes tends to be a moral event horizon one rarely comes back from. Pretty much as far from Knightly conduct as one could feasibly get.
But Much Like Sougo over in Zi-O with how Ui is being portrayed here, the show seems to be trying to drive home the fact that they're doing awful, morally-objectionable things because they're lonely and trying to fill a void, but the same problem persists with them that the reason they are lonely and shunned by those their peers is they keep doing awful things and act oblivious to the world around them; their refusal to thus do so and injecting their own thus making others not WANT to be around them. But Their callous conduct is the problem and WHY they were alone, and they don't see that they could have gotten the companionship they really wanted had they reflected on their actions and chosen to change themselves instead of obsessing over something that won't get them what they actually want or need. Both shows however seems to have taken the route of patching over a fundamental character flaw without addressing the core misconduct, and are worse for it as a result.