KR Zero-One 02 released

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Re: KR Zero-One 02 released

Post by GaMa7 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:43 am

takenoko wrote:
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Hey Gama, you might want to break that up into paragraphs. When I write a lot, I find it's a lot easier for people to read it if my ideas are broken down into bite size pieces.
Thanks for the suggestion! You are absolutely right, I've broken down the wall of text in paragraphs. I was just still excited by the episode and wrote that up without thinking much about the form. :oops:

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Re: KR Zero-One 02 released

Post by HowlingSnail » Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:51 am

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Re: KR Zero-One 02 released

Post by Kuchiri » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:46 pm

Also. someone pointing out Aruto's humor is bad... it's meant to be. Did you see the look of death on everyone's face after he made the bad joke at the end of the episode. I expect every episode is going to end on one of these. Maybe one of them will actually be funny to change things up and shock everyone. Maybe other characters will chime in with them. I'm okay with these kinds of ongoing gags.

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Re: KR Zero-One 02 released

Post by takenoko » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:00 pm

LOL. Come on guys, we know it's supposed to be bad, you're not explaining anything people don't understand.

It's still annoying, and it's not that funny a bit.

You can put a character in a story that's supposed to be annoying to their fellow characters. But it's still bad writing if that same character is annoying for the audience.

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Re: KR Zero-One 02 released

Post by ViRGE » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:37 pm

takenoko wrote:
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Anyway, if Aruto's dad is a bot, will the plot twist be that Aruto is a robot? If not, who's the replicant in this story, because one of the main characters is definitely going to be revealed to be a robot. Make your bets now!
That's a really good point; I hadn't even considered the writers pulling a Replicant. I doubt Aruto is a bot, as it seems like that would be a liability for toy sales (you want the hero to be relatable, after all). But everyone else is fair game.

And then we'll probably also find out that one of the bots is really a human, for good measure. :lol:

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Post by Kuchiri » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:42 pm

ViRGE wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:37 pm
takenoko wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:46 am
Anyway, if Aruto's dad is a bot, will the plot twist be that Aruto is a robot? If not, who's the replicant in this story, because one of the main characters is definitely going to be revealed to be a robot. Make your bets now!
That's a really good point; I hadn't even considered the writers pulling a Replicant. I doubt Aruto is a bot, as it seems like that would be a liability for toy sales (you want the hero to be relatable, after all). But everyone else is fair game.

And then we'll probably also find out that one of the bots is really a human, for good measure. :lol:
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Re: KR Zero-One 02 released

Post by Mxylv » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:12 pm

This was really well done. Fuwa himself seems a bit more one-dimensional than the first episode implied, but his backstory combined with Hiden having legitimate issues with corruption and coverups gave him a little more nuance.

The Mamoru subplot was kinda nice, but I could've used a couple of episodes to get to know Mamoru a bit better; this early on it felt more like a random fridge for the sake of Aruto's character (which may have amounted to fairly little, given his kinda-sorta rebuilding at the end?) than a tragedy in and of itself. (Random fact: "Mamoru" itself translates to "protect," so I can only assume some of the other Humagears have had similarly clever names.)

Oddly enough, it's a lot of the little details in the episode that really stood out to me. The Humagears in the flashbacks look a little less advanced or refined (almost simean) than the current models; Izu's statement on Humagear crimes is a pretty direct reference to Asimov's Laws of Robotics; the rogue Humagear casually hacks a motorbike to activate it. A lot of stylistic elements concerning Aruto and Fuwa's conflict, while I feel itt could have used a bit more nuance, also helped--Aruto and Fuwa's simultaneous transformations alongside indicating their vastly different motivations, set up a pretty deliberate foil, and Fuwa pinning the rogue Humagear down before destroying it seems almost sadistic in contrast to Aruto's (maybe?) rebuilding Mamoru.

This certainly wasn't a perfect episode--Zero-One sticking around the container yard until nightfall seems unlikely, the beginning was packed with a rather forced recap, and the ending sequence felt both too early and a bit too neat of a resolution to Hiden's corporate image IMO--but it was a fun one; the bike action was well done, the character contrasts worked, and heck, even the end fight's setting felt original. There's a fair amount of style and of substance in play; I'm definitely looking forward to how the series progresses from there!
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LOL. Come on guys, we know it's supposed to be bad, you're not explaining anything people don't understand.

It's still annoying, and it's not that funny a bit.
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Re: KR Zero-One 02 released

Post by Kogashi » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:59 pm

*hard concern face* ... I still enjoy the show, good second episode, believable conflicts arising outside of AIMS thinking that our boy who has just taken over as a result of a sealed will just read yesterday but they have the same family name so not impossible to assume he's in on the secrets... What, makes me, concerned... is my thoughts on Fuwa...

While I do not have money TO put it down on a bet, I do feel confident enough, to say that I would put money on his memories of the incident are not real. Either they were modified to make him firmly anti Humagear, or something much, much more twisted. Hence setting up the difficulty of him opening his henshin key as 'the start' of it... and I am not sure how I would feel if I turn out to be right.
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Re: KR Zero-One 02 released

Post by Kuchiri » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:58 pm

Is this going to turn into Battlestar Galacitica and we aren't going to know who is human and who isn't?

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Re: KR Zero-One 02 released

Post by takenoko » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:14 am

They never say his name, but the delivery guy Humagear is named Okureru which means "to deliver"
http://wiki.tvnihon.com/wiki/Kamen_Ride ... hne_Magear

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Re: KR Zero-One 02 released

Post by Lunagel » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:15 am

takenoko wrote:
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They never say his name, but the delivery guy Humagear is named Okureru which means "to deliver"
http://wiki.tvnihon.com/wiki/Kamen_Ride ... hne_Magear
I think it's more likely to be 遅れる which means "to be late" XD

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Post by Kogashi » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:59 am

"To be late" as in The to be late Humagear... it's a sort of threat, I am told... never been good at them myself.

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Re: KR Zero-One 02 released

Post by Lunagel » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:38 am

Kogashi wrote:
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"To be late" as in The to be late Humagear... it's a sort of threat, I am told... never been good at them myself.

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Post by Catastrophe » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:35 am

The AIMS Shotriser is interesting because its the first rider gun with one sided detailing to be facing the right, because of the buckle attachment thing.

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Re: KR Zero-One 02 released

Post by Kurow » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:23 am

This is a nice start and chance of pace from the recent kamen rider series. The weekly bad guys can now henshin and we got a secondary rider just on episode 2? Well looks like this is going to be more like a super sentai than the traditional kamen rider and hopefully we will get a good female rider with enough screen time on this show.

The "Raging Demon" style that they use after each finishing move looks very cool and its something that we have saw somewhere else but not here yet.

5/5 episode and a good start for sure.
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