The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series...?

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The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series...?

Post by Golden Knight » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:31 pm

Does anyone know the honest truth to why Ryosei Konishi/Kouga left the series? Was it the actor's decision? Or was it the creator's decision?

For the show to lose it most iconic legendary character Kouga it had to be a big serious decision.

From what I've seen and read everyone seems very uncertain on the topic.

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Re: The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series

Post by takenoko » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:43 pm

Pure speculation on my part, but my guess is that he's just too old, but Amemiya still wants to create more stories from the Garo world? I mean, it's not just Kouga, but all the characters attached to him. Makai Senki (And Tougen/Soukoku) was their big graduation party. And in a way, I kind of understand. The big story with Kouga was avenging his dad and winning Kaoru. Now that he has accomplished that, it'd be artificially lengthening the series to do more stories for him (which was kind of felt in Makai Senki in my opinion).

Meanwhile Amemiya rolls out "the next generation Garo" with Yami wo Terasu Mono and other spin offs. I imagine we wouldn't even be seeing Kouga's son if Yami had been a more popular series. But since it wasn't so hot, they decided to do something with Kouga's son instead. Again, just my guess here, but it seems to make sense to me.

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Re: The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series

Post by Catastrophe » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:57 pm

Perhaps not wanting to be typecast as well? I don't know how much work he did between the first and second series, but I assume one would want to move out from the midnight adult toku slot eventually anyway.

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Re: The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series

Post by Zaruba » Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:34 am

Yeah I sincerly miss Kouga even though season three's characters are starting to grow on me a bit. However noone will ever replace Kouga or Kaoru. Or Zero for that matter.

If you think about it, it's not just Kouga that seemingly is not a main part of the series it's all the main characters of old. Which makes it seem like it could be a director or writer thing. They're all young enough to make many more seasons. That's the great thing about writing. You can always think of another story for the characters worthy enough to make another season for.

I just hope they really explain what truly happens to Kouga and why his sword and armor was retired if for some reason he never comes back. My instinct tells me that since they left things open with Kouga going back to Kaoru and not really explaining anything further that there is a possibility of them coming back.

I would love that because nothing can ever replace the epicness of season 1 and season 2. Kouga is just on a whole nother level as a Makai Knight and character and I just love Kaoru's innocence and character as well. Nothing like sincere, loyal, mature, and reliable characters. I'm very fond of that type of personality. They may be boring to some but someone with moral strength is much more entertaining and refreshing than some crazy off the wall happy go lucky personality to me because they will never let anyone down.

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Re: The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series

Post by Zaruba » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:15 pm

I keep reading that Kouga "retired" his armor. That could either be an assumption on the sites part that is writing this stuff or that someone has an idea that he physically retired his armor to Raiga. I mean since Raiga has Kouga's jacket and his skills you would think Kouga had to have been around to teach him everything. I truly don't think he or Kaoru died. Just my hunch based on everything. They better not have.

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Re: The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series

Post by Golden Knight » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:46 pm

Interesting tought, we'll just have to wait and see and hope they don't screw up Kouga' legacy.

In regards to Raiga's jacket, its slightly different than Kouga's.

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Re: The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series

Post by MissTokuLover » Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:16 pm

a more extensive list of casts for the new season has been updated on the official site...and unfortunately neither Konishi's or Hijii Mika's names are on the list...which could indicate 2 things:

1. Neither Kouga or Kaoru will make an appearance in Makai no Hana...at least not their younger forms with the original actors

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2. They will appear in Makai no Hana, but the producers want to keep that a secret for now.

I do hope it's the latter because I want to see Konishi & Mika back! Even for just guest or cameo appearances! And I hope even more so that they're not dead!

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Re: The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series

Post by Golden Knight » Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:21 pm

I'm still hoping for a true 3rd season with Kouga that takes place before and leads up to the events of season 4. There's still a gap missing in the series and Kouga's story is only one who can fill that gap.

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Re: The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series

Post by Dragonfan » Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:26 pm

Golden Knight wrote:I'm still hoping for a true 3rd season with Kouga that takes place before and leads up to the events of season 4. There's still a gap missing in the series and Kouga's story is only one who can fill that gap.
Maybe the anime will fill that gap.

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Re: The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series

Post by Zaruba » Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:28 pm

Golden Knight wrote:I'm still hoping for a true 3rd season with Kouga that takes place before and leads up to the events of season 4. There's still a gap missing in the series and Kouga's story is only one who can fill that gap.
Yep, I truly think Keita is leaving it untouched for the chance to shoot at least one more season with them. He's smart since he's yet to touch or go near the ending of Soukoku no Maryuu. He wants everyone back for that. So honestly I hope they don't go to to deep about Kouga or Kaoru and their past comparing to season 4.

We just have to be patient and wait for either a explanation or a long awaited true season 3.

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Re: The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series

Post by MissTokuLover » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:55 am

Zaruba wrote: Yep, I truly think Keita is leaving it untouched for the chance to shoot at least one more season with them. He's smart since he's yet to touch or go near the ending of Soukoku no Maryuu
but wouldn't that seem weird? I mean, if he's really open for the chance of reuniting Kouga & Kaoru for another season as mains, why would he be so eager to create a new season based on their son? Wouldn't it be weird to have this latest season based on their son, and then plan on making another season afterwards that's based on Kouga again?

I don't think it's very likely that they'll make another full season that's focused on Kouga...I think at best they might make a movie that will fill the gap in the timeline between Soukoku no Maryuu and Makai no Hana.

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Re: The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series

Post by Zaruba » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:10 am

Well its not far fetched for him to go back in the timeline since he's going back from Yami with this new season.

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Re: The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series

Post by OOOKaiser » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:03 am

I think If Keita is going to do another season for Yami then you might expect him to do another season with Makai no Hana.

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Re: The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series

Post by Dragonfan » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:23 am

OOOKaiser wrote:I think If Keita is going to do another season for Yami then you might expect him to do another season with Makai no Hana.
Keita didn't do even the first Yami, I doubt he is going to take care of the second one.

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Re: The Truth Behind Ryosei Konishi/Kouga Leaving The Series

Post by MissTokuLover » Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:14 pm

Zaruba wrote:Well its not far fetched for him to go back in the timeline since he's going back from Yami with this new season.
the problem with that is he personally wasn't even involved in the production of YwTM and neither is he involved with the new YwTM movie. I remember someone here mentioned before that YwTM seemed like just a 'side job' that he gave his subordinates to do, and I sort of kind see that...so I'm not sure whether YwTM actually matters to Keita all that much...he doesn't seem like he's really that interested in it, even though he was the one who gave it the green light in the first place. So I don't think YwTM really counts towards what Keita himself wants, considering he is not involved in both YwTM projects.




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