How do you want Kamen Rider Taisen to end?

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Who do you want to win?

Heisei Riders
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65%
Showa Riders
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35%
 
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Re: How do you want Kamen Rider Taisen to end?

Post by Tsukino Ko'uma » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:39 am

Leonsagara wrote:I doubt they'll end up killing each other. Or, if they do, there will be some sort of magical revival thing. Anyway, the votes seem to be going in the favor of Showa riders. I voted for Heisei though.
Don't know if it affected my vote any but I always liked the Showa suit style also since as a kid I was massively exposed to the Showa suit style thanks to Haim Saban.

To the point I will actually kind of judge new Rider suits based on the color scheme, overall style, and the armor to fabric ratio in favor of how the Magnificent 7 dressed.

They may be mostly machine with few exceptions but they still have flesh and stuff, like Terminators. They are also charging into battle with most of the armor on their body consisting of a helmet and a few pieces of an unidentified substance partially covering bits and pieces of their torso.

Yet they go against monsters whose powers might come in the form of guns, saws, swords... so in addition to their crazy survival powers, ultra beefed up base forms compared to Heisei Riders, and crazy wacky old time sci fi origins, they have very little body protection in the suit and still emerge mostly unharmed.
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Re: How do you want Kamen Rider Taisen to end?

Post by HowlingSnail » Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:52 am

Heisei, because their equipment is far more powerful.
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Re: How do you want Kamen Rider Taisen to end?

Post by toni2212 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:07 pm

Showa. Because their power isn't dependantt on some external items (with a few exception)
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Re: How do you want Kamen Rider Taisen to end?

Post by ViRGE » Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:41 pm

Heisei. Honestly I'm tired of Toei's nostalgia, and it would be nice to have some justification for not dragging out the old riders every single year. It's like Kamen Rider Decade never ended.

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Post by ookamiryuujin670 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:42 pm

Heisei ftw :)

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Re: How do you want Kamen Rider Taisen to end?

Post by maybetoby » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:04 pm

Stupid question: I don't read Japanese, so I'm assuming it's the red link for Heisei and the green link for Showa?

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Re: How do you want Kamen Rider Taisen to end?

Post by methos » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:26 pm

I'd just like it to end in a way that doesn't make me go, "Eh, not the worst toku movie I've seen".

You know, like the last two Taisen movies...

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Re: How do you want Kamen Rider Taisen to end?

Post by Kamen_Rider_Shiki » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:47 pm

Kogashi wrote:That's, a really heavy, heady, philosophical question to be asking when the primary audience for this movie, I would think, are young kids. And I don't mean specifically if Heisei era Riders will win or if Showa even though I know that's how most will see and vote on it... But the idea of Showa justice being 'for the good of the society' while Heisei's justice is basically for the good of the 'individual'... That's a lot to think about no matter how you slice it. It's choosing between the two things that any society has difficulty in finding the right mix of them both together. It's the question of freedom vs order in a way. I;'m likely over thinking it, especially since I already voted on the sight for Heisei, but it's still, hmm... Makes my brain spin that one of them will unquestionably win, instead of the usual 'vs' titles where they fight each other only to put their differences aside and fight against the evil group thus meaning 'both sides' win.
Normally I'd think that, but then I remembered Genesis Rider Sigurd. While it's true he's a bad guy, his justification for what he did in his first appearance was under the words, 'I killed a monster that was attacking people. That's what most people call justice.' Basically he sees justice in a way Showa riders do, and that makes him more relatable to Showa despite being a villain rider. There's a chance kids who know of Showa riders and the view of order you explained as being similar to the words of a villain who is against the heroes they grew up to love. They'll want to see a hero who doesn't see justice as the needs of the many triumph over another hero who thinks similar to Sigurd.

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Re: How do you want Kamen Rider Taisen to end?

Post by HW-DiEnd » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:40 pm

I'll still stay on the Heisei Riders's side.Im soooo tired of this Toei Nostalgia,of course will be awesome to see the original actors that started everything to come back in a cameo,but the franchise will be 45 years old,new things need to appear.And i love Kamen Rider because of their weapon arsenal every season,even with the awesome rider kicks.
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Re: How do you want Kamen Rider Taisen to end?

Post by cr4y88 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:27 pm

I wish Showa Riders win!

The true kamen riders are showa riders :)

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Post by locuas » Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:38 pm

cr4y88 wrote:I wish Showa Riders win!

The true kamen riders are showa riders :)
Nah, the TRUE kamen rider is SKullman! and the closest thing the shows have to Skullman is Kamen Rider Skull from W, so the heisei riders are the true riders :P

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Re: How do you want Kamen Rider Taisen to end?

Post by Masked Rider » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:55 pm

Showa Riders gets my vote. Most of them didn't need an energy boost or upgraded weapons to defeat an enemy. Heck, Kamen Rider Black was able to take down Gorgom with his own bare hands (and Road Sector).

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Re: How do you want Kamen Rider Taisen to end?

Post by SaviorDragonFTW » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:53 pm

Honestly, it should be the Heisei's victory. My biggest reason is because I started watching Kamen Riders thanks to Kamen Rider Kiva and Kamen Rider Decade (my favorite Rider BTW; if I get flamed for liking him, I brought it on myself :lol: ) so I know a lot more about the Heisei Era. Hell, I did a speech for my Speech Course in college on Kamen Rider and went into more detail about the Heisei Era since I knew more without having to look up any information. Hahaha.

And honestly, watching the Heisei Riders defeat the Riders who are considered legends would be amazing. It would mean they have become legends in their own right and honor the Kamen Rider name. It's like a passing of a torch so to speak. The Showa Riders would acknowledge that while their time may have ended, the world has many more champions to protect it.

But, I doubt that they will win this. Since the voting is a numbers game, and from what I understand of the Japanese population, there are more older people in Japan than their are young people. And these people may have been raised on Showa and see it as the superior Era for their own reasons. And from what I'm reading even in this forum, the vote is clearly Showa's dominance. It will be what it will be, but from where I stand, and see the numbers coming in, it will no doubt be Showa's victory.

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Re: How do you want Kamen Rider Taisen to end?

Post by maybetoby » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:23 am

SaviorDragonFTW wrote:Honestly, it should be the Heisei's victory. My biggest reason is because I started watching Kamen Riders thanks to Kamen Rider Kiva and Kamen Rider Decade (my favorite Rider BTW; if I get flamed for liking him, I brought it on myself :lol: ) so I know a lot more about the Heisei Era. Hell, I did a speech for my Speech Course in college on Kamen Rider and went into more detail about the Heisei Era since I knew more without having to look up any information. Hahaha.
That's okay, Decade is my favorite because his was my first series. I love Decade.

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Re: How do you want Kamen Rider Taisen to end?

Post by metoren » Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:49 am

Hopefully Showa will win. Still I think they have recorded both endings and will release both later on.

To people that say they are tired of nostalgia and want new things, I say they are getting new things yearly. Every new Heisei rider is so "new" that I have trouble sometimes getting the point of why calling them Kamen riders, apart from the henshin belt. They could fit in any other category, metal heroes etc.

I do think it's good to bring the old back, even if only for the movies, so people can get an idea of how it used to be, the darker tones in their stories, practical effects, main characters fighting without transforming until the very end, stunts etc. As ironic as it sounds, bringing the old back, somehow brings also a breath of fresh air into the franchise, in contrast to the colorful tones of the current series.

To this day, in my opinion, no series have come close to how well crafted Black was. Plot, Characters, Designs. It's not a surprise, they always find a way to bring Shadow Moon back. His design is still modern even after 27 or so years.

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