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Getting Into Kamen Rider (A Few Questions)

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:13 pm
by Myrodis19
I have posted here years ago when i was contemplating getting into the fandom. I was introduced to the fandom with Kamen Rider Dragon Knight, from there i went to Kamen Rider Decade (My only finished series). I finished the main show, but no movies. Which brings me to my first question.

1. How do the movies work? (Every-time i try to get into a series or think about getting into a series the movies stop me. They make me feel as if i have to watch the previous series and such.)
2. Which movies are canon? (Aka which do i have to watch and which can i skip. I would only skip them if they include crossovers with other series i do not know.)
3. There are three series i have on my mind as is to start with. Build, Ghost, and Fourze. Which would be a better start for a complete series watch?

Also any other info and such would be great. If there is a current thread or video where this sort of thing is gone through then pplease do link me.

Re: Getting Into Kamen Rider (A Few Questions)

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:28 pm
by Lunagel
1) Who really knows? Generally the movies aren't written by the main writer for the series and only tie in very loosely into the canon, if at all. You can honestly skip pretty much every Versus Rider movie without losing much. The movies are pretty much only a cash grab so it's best not to take them too seriously.
2) Anything not a Versus is usually canon. (Though you could argue for hours about what is and isn't)
3) Fourze, definitely. Build's decent but not outstanding. Do not watch Ghost, it was an absolute clusterfuck.

Re: Getting Into Kamen Rider (A Few Questions)

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:33 pm
by Myrodis19
Lunagel wrote:
Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:28 pm
1) Who really knows? Generally the movies aren't written by the main writer for the series and only tie in very loosely into the canon, if at all. You can honestly skip pretty much every Versus Rider movie without losing much. The movies are pretty much only a cash grab so it's best not to take them too seriously.
2) Anything not a Versus is usually canon. (Though you could argue for hours about what is and isn't)
3) Fourze, definitely. Build's decent but not outstanding. Do not watch Ghost, it was an absolute clusterfuck.
So when it comes to the movies i can skip the VS movies and just watch the named movies for said series? Can i skip the war movies? I see Decade and a few other series have them.

Re: Getting Into Kamen Rider (A Few Questions)

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:36 pm
by Lunagel
Yeah the Rider War movies are all Versus, they're not usually canon to the main plot. Sometimes they can be interesting but usually they're a bit of a slog anyway so you're not missing much by skipping them.

Re: Getting Into Kamen Rider (A Few Questions)

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:40 pm
by Myrodis19
Lunagel wrote:
Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:36 pm
Yeah the Rider War movies are all Versus, they're not usually canon to the main plot. Sometimes they can be interesting but usually they're a bit of a slog anyway so you're not missing much by skipping them.
Alright, thank you. Now that i know that i dont need to watch the VS or War movies watching series will be easier for me.

Re: Getting Into Kamen Rider (A Few Questions)

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:14 pm
by Lunagel
Honestly, Gaim is probably the best Heisei Rider series. It's got a tight, well thought out plot, great characters, good episode balance, and doesn't require watching the movies.

Re: Getting Into Kamen Rider (A Few Questions)

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:08 am
by Catastrophe
Good post Decade series to watch are W, Fourze and Gaim. Everything other than that typically comes down to personal preference. Wizard is kind of bland. Ghost is shit and isn't worth watching at all.

Pre-Decade is a little harder to pick, as there are a lot more hit and miss seasons. Kabuto is worth watching for sure though.

Re: Getting Into Kamen Rider (A Few Questions)

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:13 am
by Phoenix512
The W parts of Movie Wars 2010 and Core actually gives backstory on Kamen Rider Skull which you should watch.

Re: Getting Into Kamen Rider (A Few Questions)

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:31 am
by Catastrophe
Core and Megamax are pretty good movies. The crossover ones don't really have that much bearing on the stories and can be skipped if they are rubbish.

Re: Getting Into Kamen Rider (A Few Questions)

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:06 am
by takenoko
I usually like telling people to just watch the series in order. I think the early Heisei stuff tends to be a bit stronger storywise.

Re: Getting Into Kamen Rider (A Few Questions)

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:49 am
by Catastrophe
Also true. The issue you get front loading with the better stuff is watching other series is more of a slog.