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Definition of a "6th Ranger"

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:28 am
by Lunchboxx
Maybe it's just me, but why do people always refer a new ranger to a show the "6th" if he/she is really just the 4th or 5th? Abaranger, Gekiranger and Go-Busters is a prime example.

I've heard from people (Not exactly here on the forums) that Jin is a 6th ranger of the show. I don't get the reason WHY he's called the 6th, when he's really the 4th. 5th if you count J, but you see my point.


I dunno, maybe it's just a nickname (a stupid one at that) that fans coined for the series, but it just kinda peeves me whenever Somebody mentions a new "6th" raner when really, they are just the 4th or 5th.

Random rant over, your thoughts?

Re: Definition of a "6th Ranger"

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:43 am
by takenoko
Probably can blame this one on Power Rangers.

In Japan, they have a term for it which came up in Gokaiger. I think the term meant "additional warrior", which makes sense since not all of the guy's on Gai's chestplate were sixth rangers.

Re: Definition of a "6th Ranger"

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:39 am
by Lunagel
Partially PR but also the first series to introduce extra rangers after the fact were Zyu, Dai, Kaku and up until Hurri, they were all 5 person cells with one extra later. Pretty much all of the sentai start with 5 people and then add more, with the exception of Sun Vulcan, Geki, (technically Go-On) and Go-Busters. For the most part, they are 6th rangers, so even if it's only the 4th or 5th ranger, the moniker sticks.

Re: Definition of a "6th Ranger"

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:44 am
by Yaiba
Sentai is usually a 5 men team.The first official additional extra ranger, the sixth ranger, is Dragon Ranger from Zyuranger. When it carried over to Power Rangers he was refer to as the sixth ranger.

And then it just become a tv tropes that sixth ranger = extra ranger
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SixthRanger

Re: Definition of a "6th Ranger"

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:21 am
by Lunchboxx
Well that trope makes no damn sense.

I grew up watching Power Rangers, and I still do. I never thought that RJ and Domminick(U.S. versions of Geki Violet and Chopper) were "6th" rangers, I always considered them to be 4th and 5th. 6th just makes somebody sound stupid. Same goes for Tommy and Trent (U.S. versions of Abareblack and Abarekiller)

I dunno, I guess I'm just one of the few people who considered that to be nonsense, and calls 4th and 5th rangers what they are. Or as Takenoko has said, "Additional warriors".

Re: Definition of a "6th Ranger"

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:46 pm
by locuas
Essentially, a sixth ranger is someone who changes the status quo.
For example, when Genta joined the shinkengers, there was a change. They started to create their own tools instead of just relying on using the ones from previous generations.
When Gai joined the gokaigers(gary stu or not aside), the gokaigers started to use and understand their powers better.
A different exaple.
Tommy did this as well, altough it was more on the quality of the show than just the status quo(there was a change, but hey, this was a series of the nineties), the characters started to develop and there were some subplots instead of just monsters of the week.
In gaogaigar(i will try to avoid spoilers) when the sixth ranger appeared, the REAL plot appeared as well, and it started to be more dark in tone.
To be a sixth ranger would be someone who doesn't just join the team, but that joining the team changes something completely.

Re: Definition of a "6th Ranger"

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:35 pm
by TheLastTatlFan
TV Tropes is entirely to blame for this one, and it makes sense in the context of TV Tropes, in as much as they name writing conventions after the most significant example they can come up with. Jin and J, Gou and Ken, Hiroto and Miu, they're Sixth Rangers, even though they're not sixth rangers.

For the same reason, a joke that has it's punchline delivered long after it's set up is a Brick Joke, even if it doesn't involve an actual brick.

It works for the site, though I'll agree it probably shouldn't be used outside the site.

Re: Definition of a "6th Ranger"

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:02 pm
by takenoko
I'm pretty sure people used the term 6th ranger before TV Tropes was around. I think you're attributing too much credit/blame to them since it's a phenomenon not limited to their site.

I haven't really seen anyone refer to Jin as the 6th ranger. I think it'd be extremely silly if anyone did so and meant it. People are probably just using the term jokingly or because like others have said, it's a convenient term even if it doesn't exactly fit. It's like how people use the term Yu-Gi-Oh season zero. It's a poor description of the series, but people know what it means.

I mean, if it's a term that bothers you, be the change that you want to see in the world and don't use it.

Re: Definition of a "6th Ranger"

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:12 am
by Lunchboxx
It does not bother me that much, I'm just wondering why the hell people call them 6th rangers in the first place.

Ah well, I geuss I have my answer though.

Re: Definition of a "6th Ranger"

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:13 pm
by lostinbrave
I don't normaly put that qualifier on. I normaly don't number them either. I just call them by their names, easier that way.