Rating Poll: Kamen Rider Kiva

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***** TENSION FORTISSIMO
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36%
**** WAKE UP FEVER!
26
32%
*** Bridge between worlds
14
17%
** Evil Fangire
8
10%
* Marked for death by the King
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5%
 
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Rating Poll: Kamen Rider Kiva

Post by wisdomcat »

When I first saw the promo for this and I was cautious about it then I watched the show and saw how amazing it was. The actor who played Wataru played him well I loved his character. The actor who played Otoya did a wonderful job as well. The villians were great. The spider fangire was amusing to watch sometimes then he just got annoying. I'm giving this a 5.

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Oooh, there was such promise in this show. The concept of two story lines that reflect each other, following the same family, the character of Otoya, the gothic design of Kiva and Saga. It just... Ran into so many short comings. The two storylines mostly became 'Monster didn't die in the 80s, not resurfaced today'. The fights were not all that creative for the most part. There was so many plot elements that were not explained... The heck was with a time travel door!? And we barely used it!? That should have been the midway series changer. There were so many use once to sell this toy powers, even for a Kamen Rider series. I mean, on the plus side like I said, Otoya was an amazing character. But, much as with Go-Buster, one amazing character can't save a series. I give it points for Otoya, creative suit designs, but that's about it... Then of course there's just how much of a giant vampiric soap opera it turned into near the end. 2 outta 5 for me.
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Definitely a great start. Turned to shit later on. Emperor Form spamming was lame. Nice Rider and Monster designs though.
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Catastrophe wrote:Definitely a great start. Turned to shit later on. Emperor Form spamming was lame. Nice Rider and Monster designs though.
I liked the design for emperor form though. It feels like they wanted Emperor form to be Kiva's default form which they did in the rest of the series lmao. We rarely saw Kiva's default form it was mostly emperor.
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I know. What I'm saying is it was lame to forget all those other forms. The monster arms barely get used after emperor form. Bassha Fever never gets used!
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It had some good ideas and good concepts but tended to get bogged down by weird shit (wtf was up with the Ikemens again). It's a 2.5 for me but bumping it up to 3 because it was my first KR and also because that fucking guy with the hand puppets cracks me up still.
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This was the first full KR series that I watched (I started watching Decade first, but it was ongoing at the time). I love Wataru. It had a good cast, but they didn't seem to know what to do with many of the characters. The time split story was novel, though it kind of ended up with the back in time stuff not seeming to matter as much. This was sadly the last KR show that took the time to have the monsters kill innocent people. The show did have a lot of problems, but I still really liked it. I give it a 4.
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Lunagel wrote:It had some good ideas and good concepts but tended to get bogged down by weird shit (wtf was up with the Ikemens again). It's a 2.5 for me but bumping it up to 3 because it was my first KR and also because that fucking guy with the hand puppets cracks me up still.
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This is one of the series that the more I think about it, the more I hate it. The story is a complete mess, the characters are unlikable and whiny especially Wataru which I consider him to be the Kamen Rider equivalent of Kira Yamoto, and the soundtrack while decent, loses points because of its sh*tty opening. Overall score: 1.5/5. Easily my least favorite Kamen Rider series.
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It have a potential during Dark Kiva arc. But the climax arc still not as great as I expected. Inoue should make 86's people go in the future in the series. But it didnt happen. It happened in the movie but I didnt see the link between Series n movie like Den-O did. And I dont considered Movie was relevant to the series.. But it did have good ending. No one died in vein.
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Honestly I love this series the gothic vibes just hit all the right point for me. Plus I started Kamen Rider with this one, so it close to me on that front. Really the only downside I felt it had was that the monster Arms were not used that often.
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I gave Kiva a 5 because it kicks ass.

Now, that doesn't mean I didn't find problems with it, I just really like it. Megumi should have been a full-time Rider. She was too awesome not to be a Rider. Same with Yuri. I liked the two timelines, but they weren't used to their full potential. Some of the monster didn't really tie into the future as much as they did in the past, so it felt that the future side was just MOTW instead of actual story.

I had a love/hate relationship with Kengo, but that was mostly due to the plots they put him in. It just felt unnecessary at times.

Kiva is a series where you get rewarded as you keep watching because you see the characters grow and more mysteries/puzzles get solved along the way. However, if you just look at individual episodes, the series is not as good there.
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Lunagel wrote:It had some good ideas and good concepts but tended to get bogged down by weird shit (wtf was up with the Ikemens again). It's a 2.5 for me but bumping it up to 3 because it was my first KR and also because that fucking guy with the hand puppets cracks me up still.
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Looking back (it's been a while) the issues I feel were that the two time-periods didn't always seem to link up thematically, Wataru was a little too withdrawn to be a relatable protagonist and several of the secondary characters' plots seemed to go a little... odd in the middle. I was actually pulled up short at one point (when Kengo was the main user of the IXA knuckle) and took a good long look at Nago and just felt he was not the same character he was at the beginning and the personality shift and his narrative arc just didn't match up.

But at the same time I don't have the same sense of let down that I felt from Wizard, which is why, despite its issues it get's a two and a half from me and a generous round up to three for being my first Kamen Rider series.
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Now this is a real headache. It's good, but there's some unanswered questions left from the series that I still can't find. I know why they spammed Emperor form later on, but still don't know who is supposed to be Megumi's father, when did Otoya's relationship with the Queen Fangire turned to become serious, etc. So, only a 3. Decade is not divisive for me (it is straight horrible for me), Kiva is, due to the many unanswered questions.
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Post by takenoko »

I think this and Faiz were probably the indicators that Inoue didn't know how to write interesting stories anymore. Well, the 80s stuff was good, but the modern day stuff was terrible. At best, it's probably a 4 star show, but cut in half for all its problems with the story. A 2 for me. Wataru was badly written, he didn't make sense as Kiva, Mio was just a character who dies for his character arc, his reaction to her death is hilarious since he tries to Back to the Future himself out of existence, and his relationship with his brother was too little too late. Also, he has a pet teenager girl take care of him. I'd almost rather watch Nago or Megumi be the main character for the modern storyline.

Someone took the 80s stories and just cut the modern stuff out of them, and I hear people liked that a lot better.

On the flip side, the music for this series was pretty good at least. And we had a lot of fun music videos come out of this series.
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