KR Zi-O 15 released

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KR Zi-O 15 released

Post by takenoko » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:49 pm

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Last week's Zi-O rating: 4.21 / 5 (17 votes)

Alt Title: Show already did the Back to the Future joke for me

Alright episode. Was kind of hoping for more considering it's the most main plot heavy one so far.

Tsukuyomi pointing her gun and not firing was really dumb. I hate that shit.

Edit: How much Sougo x Geiz porn is there out there now? Be honest.

Edit edit: That spot where Geiz fights is pretty cool looking.

Edit edit edit: /me squints at Kasshiin...
Scorpion, is that you?

Edit edit edit edit: Uh, where did he get the Kiva, Ryuki, and Kuuga Ride Watches for his Hei Saber attacks?

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Re: KR Zi-O 15 released

Post by TypicalStandUser » Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:43 am

Our young king finally explains why he wants to be a king. In light of this, chaos has entered the show. The Demon King caught wind of Geiz and Tsuku-chan’s plans to eliminate his younger self, so he sent in a Terminator for them, while Decade transports our young king to the future to show him the consequences of his dream.

Based on stopping at certain timestamps, analyzing a nearly obscured face and listening to the voice, that mysterious man might be Schwartz.

Nice to hear Kenjiro Tsuda once again. Screw the rules, Redyue’s now a Terminator. Huh. The suit may have reused a part or two from the any of the Three Crows Smash’s suits, particularly the chest.

Yeah, I don't like the stand-in playing Oma Zi-O’s human identity. They should’ve gotten Rikiya Koyama to play him, albeit giving him heavy make up to look like he’s old and unrecognizable.

Good episode. This should move the story.
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Post by takenoko » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:11 pm

I hope we don't get to the end and the twist is just "Oh, Oma Zi-O wasn't Sougo all along. That's why you can't see his face."

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Re: KR Zi-O 15 released

Post by DevGryphon » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:08 pm

takenoko wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:49 pm
Edit edit edit: /me squints at Kasshiin...
Scorpion, is that you?

Edit edit edit edit: Uh, where did he get the Kiva, Ryuki, and Kuuga Ride Watches for his Hei Saber attacks?
The HeiSaber doesn't need the watches to do the attacks. Oma Zi-O had those watches
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Post by takenoko » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:49 pm

Oooh. I totally forgot about that part. Thanks.

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Re: KR Zi-O 15 released

Post by HowlingSnail » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:08 am

Well that was decent, because they finally did something with the plot. More plot Toei, instead of half-arsed tribute episodes.

Also, please let that not be all we get of Kamen Rider Tsukuyomi. You've got the text in the Driver, Toei. Use it.

With what happened in Zi-O 15, I suppose it's possible that Oma Zi-O is Sougo. Based on what he said, I'm guessing something happened in the future, and him being a dictator is the lesser of 2 evils.

I like the idea that Tsukuyomi's a villain, but I doubt they'd do it. They won't let Sougo be evil, they won't let Noël be evil, and they won't let Tsukuyomi be evil. That's the sad truth of it, Toei won't let such main characters be evil. Doesn't fit with the morals they feel the need to cram in.

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Re: KR Zi-O 15 released

Post by HowlingSnail » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:47 am

Also, Build's Kamen Ride shouldn't have had the Hagane no Moonsault in it. Every Kamen Ride up to Drive had an established style of not using any speech from the past Rider's belt, but with Ghost and Build they've ditched that.

But hey, not giving a fuck about past shows is kind of Zi-O's thing.
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Re: KR Zi-O 15 released

Post by takenoko » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:30 pm

HowlingSnail wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:47 am
Also, Build's Kamen Ride shouldn't have had the Hagane no Moonsault in it. Every Kamen Ride up to Drive had an established style of not using any speech from the past Rider's belt, but with Ghost and Build they've ditched that.
Eh? What do you mean?

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Re: KR Zi-O 15 released

Post by HowlingSnail » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:54 pm

takenoko wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:30 pm
HowlingSnail wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:47 am
Also, Build's Kamen Ride shouldn't have had the Hagane no Moonsault in it. Every Kamen Ride up to Drive had an established style of not using any speech from the past Rider's belt, but with Ghost and Build they've ditched that.
Eh? What do you mean?
No previous Kamen Rides used voice clips from past Rider belts. They all used sound effects, but none were voice clips, right up to the Kamen Ride for Drive. Ghost and Build have both broken that tradition, and I'm guessing Ex-Aid and Zi-O will do the same, meaning they don't fit in with the dozens of other Kamen Rides.
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Re: KR Zi-O 15 released

Post by takenoko » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:44 pm

For like the legend rider toy gimmicks? I dunno how canon I'd consider that

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Re: KR Zi-O 15 released

Post by resop2 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:10 pm

In the Decade movie they have Natumikan henshi and kill off Decade so he could come back as a good guy, so having Tuskuyomi henshi and be the one who kills the evil side of Sougo would be a possibility.

It was cool that Tsukuyomi finally does something effectively physically.

I am starting the think that the Timejackers are as driven by the horror of the future as Geiz and Tsukuyomi are. They definitely did not look happy that giant machines were appearing. The only difference though between the scooby gang and the Timejackers is that the Timejackers don't care about collateral damage, they only care about results.

An idea to make the show much much worse: Have Shogo's uncle fix a microwave so that it can send a text message back in time like in Steins;Gate. Then have the rest of the episodes all end in the earth being destroyed right after Shogo sending a message back to himself so that the rest of the series is the same day endlessly repeating.

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Re: KR Zi-O 15 released

Post by BreadToku » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:37 pm

takenoko wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:44 pm
For like the legend rider toy gimmicks? I dunno how canon I'd consider that
They are referring to the soubd effects of Decade's Decadriver. The new transformations (Ghost to Build) aren't entirely consistent with how it worked with the previous ones. It's a minor thing, but I sorta noticed too last week.
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Re: KR Zi-O 15 released

Post by Urukazuto » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:53 pm

HowlingSnail wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:47 am
Also, Build's Kamen Ride shouldn't have had the Hagane no Moonsault in it. Every Kamen Ride up to Drive had an established style of not using any speech from the past Rider's belt, but with Ghost and Build they've ditched that.

But hey, not giving a fuck about past shows is kind of Zi-O's thing.
I think it means this :
in the past Kamen Riders (Decabelt Sound Effect) was simply Kamen Ride (X).
but for newer riders they added the voice clip

For Example:
in episode 13 We See Decade Transfrom from Agito to Hibiki (with Simple sound effect Kamen Ride Hibiki)
but on episode 14 and 15 (Ghost and Build). we see When Tsukasa Transform to ghost (there is voice clip Let's go! Get Ready! Go-go-go Ghost) and same with build

I mean he want consistency on this probably (simply Kamen Ride Ghost / Build instead of added voice clip)

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Re: KR Zi-O 15 released

Post by takenoko » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:07 am

Oh I see. Thank you both for explaining it.

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Re: KR Zi-O 15 released

Post by Phoenix512 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:56 am

I realized that Kasshiin was voiced by Tsuda Kenjiro and really hope that he isn't just a minion. That voice shouldn't dwell in the minion territory. It needs to be go beyond minion to back stabbing villain with the glorious Seto Kaiba laugh.
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