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KR Zi-O 19 released

Post by takenoko » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:20 pm

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Re: KR Zi-O 19 released

Post by TypicalStandUser » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:20 am

Welcome back to Toei Tokusatsu, Katsuhiro Suzuki.

Eh cold open summary, Another Woz. And this dude is manipulating the plot for the Savior. I'm getting a feeling he might pull a Enter and betray Geiz based on what he's been doing.

Another future Rider enters the battle and curbstomps our main Riders. Apparently, Quiz can’t return to 2040 until he finds out why Another Quiz abandoned him and his mom.

And here’s the conflict. Oma Woz wants Sougo to defeat Quiz so that the timeline can be repaired for the Demon King, while Another Woz wants Geiz to do the same in order to create the 2nd MiRide Watch that may enable the creation of the Savior.

OK episode.

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Re: KR Zi-O 19 released

Post by Arigomi » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:25 am

For some reason, I was expecting to see Geiz still wearing his upper body thing while in his pajamas.

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Re: KR Zi-O 19 released

Post by ViRGE » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:08 pm

Hey Geiz. Maybe, just maybe you let the new guy ask his question. And then you kick his ass? There's no reason the order of operations has to start with the ass kicking.

Past that, this was an okay episode. I'm excited as all heck to see Red Buster again. And despite being a quick, one-off character, he has an interesting reason for being in the past.

However this episode was otherwise so-so. The big problem is that the show is telegraphing Geiz Revive so hard that there's absolutely no reason to believe we won't see him. Meaning that the 3 future watches will be created, and undermining any suspense. There's no question of what Geiz will do - if not him, then Another Woz will defeat KR Quiz - but the show is still plowing forward with that question anyhow. If this was a howdunit instead of a "what will happen" scenario, it would be a lot more interesting, I feel.

Edit: We also got a new insert song. And unusually for Toei, they didn't drown it out with sound effects from the fight. :shock: Do we have any idea what it's called and what it's about?

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Re: KR Zi-O 19 released

Post by takenoko » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:24 am

Dunno, it wasn't in the credits and I didn't see any mention of the song on the Japanese wiki last I checked. That's about as much research I

Nevermind. It's Future Guardian and it looks like it's Geiz's song
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Post by HowlingSnail » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:16 am

"It's you from before!" Damn straight it is, Sougo.

Nice to see the Quiz Driver's voiced by a girl. That's a rarity. In fact, has it ever happened fully? Only examples I can think of are the Tokimeki Crisis Gashat and the girl saying "Ready the Engine" in Drive's standby.

Also, I've said it before and I'll say it again, Woz's visor should be in hiragana if he's allied with Geiz. Unless it's Toei hinting that he's really an agent of Oma Zi-O.
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Re: KR Zi-O 19 released

Post by ViRGE » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:39 am

takenoko wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:24 am
Dunno, it wasn't in the credits and I didn't see any mention of the song on the Japanese wiki last I checked. That's about as much research I

Nevermind. It's Future Guardian and it looks like it's Geiz's song
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Re: KR Zi-O 19 released

Post by takenoko » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:25 pm

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Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:16 am
Nice to see the Quiz Driver's voiced by a girl. That's a rarity. In fact, has it ever happened fully? Only examples I can think of are the Tokimeki Crisis Gashat and the girl saying "Ready the Engine" in Drive's standby.
I don't know if I'd count that since that's the Gashat saying it, not the Driver itself. The closest thing to this that is a part of the belt would be the Kivaara belt, since Kivaara voices it?

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Re: KR Zi-O 19 released

Post by resop2 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:55 pm

I didn't like this episode even though we got stereo scenery chewing by the Woz's. I couldn't get past the fact that Geiz is sinking to the level of the Timejacker's in terms of not caring about collateral damage. Why not tell Quiz that he can have his father son reunion, but after that Quiz has to fight him (other than they needed a dramatic cliffhanger for the second episode)? Quiz would have no reason to say no since he thinks Geiz and Sougo are weaklings. And, if Geiz really didn't care, why didn't he jump Quiz when Quiz was asleep?

At least Tsukuyomi is showing some smarts, making White Woz dance to her tune.

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Re: KR Zi-O 19 released

Post by PDA » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:58 pm

okay episode, but geiz and zio are just 2 guys without any knowledge about whats happening ALWAYS, this is really annoying. and still working together, this is dumb considering that all them want preserve his timeline(sougo still crazy thinking on being burguer king, good demon king or whatever and now geiz wants one timeline to call mine finally beating zio ass) and both them still working together besides opposite goals, its like batman forever with mr freeze and poison ivy working together with goals totally incompatible (also, check honest trailer batman forever on youtube)

also, how geiz and sougo plan beat another quiz without quis watch?

also, ora can freeze time, change rider kick direction and want a new king and after 10898495849 tries, she finds that another quis a good candidate(like always the actual another rider gonna be...), so whats the point on let geiz and zio alive if these 2 dumbass are the major problem for timejackers new king? why just dont freeze time and throw a piano on their heads? imo breaks any imersion ora making them so vulnerable and dont do anything smart on that.

also, why quiz dont loose memory if timejackers already created another quiz ? so...only sougo and geiz can screw riders memory creating rider watchs? earlier in show the rider cease to exist and lose memory when another rider was created

the main point of geiz revive is hard to understand because rider woz can just beat zio so easy as decade, theres no need of geiz revive

its a kids show and theres a episode 2.5 rule but is hard....

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Re: KR Zi-O 19 released

Post by resop2 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:28 pm

PDA wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:58 pm
also, ora can freeze time, change rider kick direction and want a new king and after 10898495849 tries, she finds that another quis a good candidate(like always the actual another rider gonna be...), so whats the point on let geiz and zio alive if these 2 dumbass are the major problem for timejackers new king? why just dont freeze time and throw a piano on their heads? imo breaks any imersion ora making them so vulnerable and dont do anything smart on that.
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"that would make too much sense" or
"Woz the over powered retainer would appear and push the piano out of the way" or
"Oha and the rest of the Timejackers are obsessed with looking cool, and resorting to direct violence against Sougo would offend their artistic sensibilities" or
"If Geiz and Sougo are not around then there would be no way to test if the Another Rider had what it took to become a demon king, so until an Another Rider can defeat Geiz and Sougo they should be left alive"
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Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:58 pm
the main point of geiz revive is hard to understand because rider woz can just beat zio so easy as decade, theres no need of geiz revive
White Woz is a slave to history. If he kills Zi-O that would create a paradox since he comes from a world where Geiz did (if you believe what White Woz says.) (This does not explain why Geiz killing Sougo would not create a time paradox.)

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Re: KR Zi-O 19 released

Post by Kuchiri » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:59 pm

Now we keep on assuming that Geiz Revive isn't just White Woz taking the Geiz name because history said it was Geiz who defeated Woz.

Similar to how there were fan theories that Geiz was Oma Zio like ten episode discussions ago.

I do like how both of the future rider belts are really the Ziku Driver with a different middle.

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Re: KR Zi-O 19 released

Post by Eric » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:58 am

I feel suddenly, I realize I never seen a rider with a question motif like yesterday tbh. Also, I remind of that actor who's playing Quiz was Red Buster...
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Re: KR Zi-O 19 released

Post by HowlingSnail » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:38 am

Kuchiri wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:59 pm
Now we keep on assuming that Geiz Revive isn't just White Woz taking the Geiz name because history said it was Geiz who defeated Woz.

Similar to how there were fan theories that Geiz was Oma Zio like ten episode discussions ago.

I do like how both of the future rider belts are really the Ziku Driver with a different middle.
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Geiz Revive is confirmed as a Geiz power-up form, debuting in March. So unless Woz is going to steal Woz's powers, it'd be unlikely. Granted it would let Black Woz then use the Beyond Driver himself, but it'd still leave OG Geiz without powers.
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Re: KR Zi-O 19 released

Post by Kamen Rider Raven » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:57 am

takenoko wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:25 pm
HowlingSnail wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:16 am
Nice to see the Quiz Driver's voiced by a girl. That's a rarity. In fact, has it ever happened fully? Only examples I can think of are the Tokimeki Crisis Gashat and the girl saying "Ready the Engine" in Drive's standby.
I don't know if I'd count that since that's the Gashat saying it, not the Driver itself. The closest thing to this that is a part of the belt would be the Kivaara belt, since Kivaara voices it?
Wasn't the Alternative card reader in Ryuki voiced by a female? Aside from that and Kivaara though, I don't think there have been any

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