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Re: Kamen Rider Yongou Released

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:17 am
by takenoko
Yeah, but none of the time travel stuff makes sense if you think about it too much XD

Re: Kamen Rider Yongou Released

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:55 am
by KamenRiderKaibo
takenoko wrote:Yeah, but none of the time travel stuff makes sense if you think about it too much XD
Well, that's true. Especially how Drive can change the future in the Sangou movie :lol:

Re: Kamen Rider Yongou Released

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:40 pm
by Catastrophe
KamenRiderKaibo wrote: Under the "History" section, it says "In the D-Video Special: Kamen Rider 4, Takumi died sometime after 555's ending. "
Under the "Note" section, it says "He, alongside all his friends except for Kaido, died in the ending of Faiz, and was only revived due to the history alteration machine."

So Takumi died after the main boss fight, and was revived again (by the history machine or Orphnoch experiment, as what Takeneko claimed). But it was never shown or mentioned explicitly about this.
1) Never been shown or mentioned means it hasn't been proved to happen.
2) It wasn't said that the Shocker history machine revived him. A machine that rewrites history doesn't revive anything, it prevents it from dying. Presumably, in this alternate time line, Takumi doesn't die after his fight and doesn't degrade like Orpenochs do for whatever reason.

takenoko wrote:It's been my longstanding theory that Takumi explicitly dies on camera at the end of Faiz. Don't believe me?
I know it's super heavily implied that's what happened, and that is my personal take on the last scene, but it doesn't happen on screen and hasn't been confirmed by anyone, so it is still considered speculation.

Re: Kamen Rider Yongou Released

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:58 pm
by takenoko
I mean, my theory is that he dies when he closes his eyes the final time.

Re: Kamen Rider Yongou Released

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:12 pm
by wisdomcat
I agree with Take I think Takumi died during that scene for the final episode

Re: Kamen Rider Yongou Released

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:59 pm
by PkmnChmp5
Please tell me I'm not the only one who heard the Ring of Honor opening theme during Drive's fight with Hiruchameleon (begins at about the 13:25 mark).

I knew I had heard that song before, but it took me a while to place it.

Re: Kamen Rider Yongou Released

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:33 pm
by toni2212
Guess this video is really fitting to be called Kamen Rider Yongou. He is the main pillar that moves the story all along. And no, i'm not talking about that military suited Rider. I'm talking about the 4th Rider in Heisei era. A suitable explanation to a series that has a loose ending overall.

Heck, watching Faiz makes me wish Toei would allow a KR series to have an ending similar to Faiz or Blade again. The Neo-Heisei all usually have a happy ending that tends to be wrapped up at the end, or in the Movie Wars film.

Re: Kamen Rider Yongou Released

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:03 pm
by hinomars19
toni2212 wrote:Guess this video is really fitting to be called Kamen Rider Yongou. He is the main pillar that moves the story all along. And no, i'm not talking about that military suited Rider. I'm talking about the 4th Rider in Heisei era. A suitable explanation to a series that has a loose ending overall.

Heck, watching Faiz makes me wish Toei would allow a KR series to have an ending similar to Faiz or Blade again. The Neo-Heisei all usually have a happy ending that tends to be wrapped up at the end, or in the Movie Wars film.
I thought Gaim was pretty brave in it's ending; not exactly conventional.

Nice catch on Faiz being the 4th Hesei Rider. :D

Re: Kamen Rider Yongou Released

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:03 am
by toni2212
hinomars19 wrote:I thought Gaim was pretty brave in it's ending; not exactly conventional.

Nice catch on Faiz being the 4th Hesei Rider. :D
Oh yeah, Gaim's ending is not exactly conventional. But other than Gaim, other Neo-Heisei tends to go the happy ending