Gaim & Wizard: The Fateful Sengoku Movie Great War released
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I'm kinda split on this movie. Kamen Rider Movies lately haven't been the greatest, and while this one is better than some of the previous ones, it still not as good as it could have been.
The Wizard part was good, (although it had a TON of plotholes that made no sense, such as "Why not just use legion's power from the start?") and it wrapped everything up nicely, but there are 3 issues. The first is the aforementioned plotholes. The second is that I wish it was it's own movie, as it felt like they were rushed and didn't have time to properly explore all the roads they wanted to take. Lastly, it makes the series worse, as it shows just how good the show could have been, but wasn't. But for what they did have, you can tell they were putting their all into it and it paid off.
The Gaim section was weird, as the movie came out so early during Gaim, and I'm used to current Gaim so much. While it did also have some unexplained plot points, there were less of them and they weren't as glaring. Unfortunately, Blood Orange Gaim was just BORING. We don't know the first thing about him, or his green monster guy. Completely uninteresting. It also has various character development-y things that REALLY don't go anywhere. Like, the entirety of what happened with Kaito was unnecessary and could have been cut entirely. It had some good fights though.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The crossover part is just wasted. We see little to no interaction between our protagonists and it never goes anywhere except a climax. Throw in unnecessary cameos (EXCEPT FOR W. I LOVE W.) and some extra plotholes, and we have a mess of a climax!
Overall, it could have been better, but for what I got, I won't complain. The next movie though...the Gaim-only one...Oh god...there is no way that can be good...
The Wizard part was good, (although it had a TON of plotholes that made no sense, such as "Why not just use legion's power from the start?") and it wrapped everything up nicely, but there are 3 issues. The first is the aforementioned plotholes. The second is that I wish it was it's own movie, as it felt like they were rushed and didn't have time to properly explore all the roads they wanted to take. Lastly, it makes the series worse, as it shows just how good the show could have been, but wasn't. But for what they did have, you can tell they were putting their all into it and it paid off.
The Gaim section was weird, as the movie came out so early during Gaim, and I'm used to current Gaim so much. While it did also have some unexplained plot points, there were less of them and they weren't as glaring. Unfortunately, Blood Orange Gaim was just BORING. We don't know the first thing about him, or his green monster guy. Completely uninteresting. It also has various character development-y things that REALLY don't go anywhere. Like, the entirety of what happened with Kaito was unnecessary and could have been cut entirely. It had some good fights though.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The crossover part is just wasted. We see little to no interaction between our protagonists and it never goes anywhere except a climax. Throw in unnecessary cameos (EXCEPT FOR W. I LOVE W.) and some extra plotholes, and we have a mess of a climax!
Overall, it could have been better, but for what I got, I won't complain. The next movie though...the Gaim-only one...Oh god...there is no way that can be good...
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Re: Gaim & Wizard: The Fateful Sengoku Movie Great War relea
I'm guessing no director's cut. I had a indication as I'm still waiting on the director's cut of the Kamen Rider Wizard movie. Has Toei decided to stop doing that?
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Director's Cuts usually come out at the same time as regular DVD, 6-12 months later or not at all. We generally don't know until after time has passed. Actually, it's only recently they've been doing DC at the same time as regular version so this is pretty much on-par for the course.
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So apparently Haruto visited Brazil, and the people there spoke english? Well, at least it wasn’t Spanish… =P
Wizard's part of the movie was easily the best for me. Gaim's wasn't too bad, if anything I enjoyed all the cameos.
The crossover part had some really cool stuff like the Rider Arms, but overal felt like wasted potential again, too little interaction between characters.
Bujin Gaim was about as interesting as Negataros -Actually, it would probably be more interesting if he was Negataros, because why not =P
Wizard's part of the movie was easily the best for me. Gaim's wasn't too bad, if anything I enjoyed all the cameos.
The crossover part had some really cool stuff like the Rider Arms, but overal felt like wasted potential again, too little interaction between characters.
Bujin Gaim was about as interesting as Negataros -Actually, it would probably be more interesting if he was Negataros, because why not =P
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Takatora has horrible, horrible eyesight. Twice in this film he clearly would have seen Micchi running around, once even transforming, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't know his kid brother is a Rider until much later.
I feel like this movie handled Wizard way better than his show ever did. The mindfuck of Haruto popping up to enter his own Underworld, though...
I feel like this movie handled Wizard way better than his show ever did. The mindfuck of Haruto popping up to enter his own Underworld, though...
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Aren't the crossovers suppose to be canon with the show? I remember someone saying that the writers working on the show should work on the movies too. I'm starting to think that person is correct.dancercotillion wrote:Takatora has horrible, horrible eyesight. Twice in this film he clearly would have seen Micchi running around, once even transforming, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't know his kid brother is a Rider until much later.
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Bujin battles I figured the reasons of their fighting.
Kuuga vs Kabuto : Who is the mighty red beetles Kuwagata or Kabuto?
Agito vs Den-O : Who will obtain Akiyama Rina? As Mana or Naomi.
Kiva vs Fourze : Who will use the moon theme?
Kuuga vs Kabuto : Who is the mighty red beetles Kuwagata or Kabuto?
Agito vs Den-O : Who will obtain Akiyama Rina? As Mana or Naomi.
Kiva vs Fourze : Who will use the moon theme?
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Who is the girl that followed Kaito around? Was she from OOO?
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She doesn't belong to OOO but in this movie served as Nobunaga Mistress(Nobunaga played by Iwanaga Hirowaki who previously played Date Akira in OOO).ChelseaChampion wrote:Who is the girl that followed Kaito around? Was she from OOO?
I did noticed Tominaga Kenji the suit actor for Kuuga. Maybe there are other suit actor, but I could't detect who.
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That's pretty funny. Makes sense to me.kyoichikiller90 wrote:Bujin battles I figured the reasons of their fighting.
Kuuga vs Kabuto : Who is the mighty red beetles Kuwagata or Kabuto?
Agito vs Den-O : Who will obtain Akiyama Rina? As Mana or Naomi.
Kiva vs Fourze : Who will use the moon theme?
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It's weird you'd call the character that. It's Mori Ranmaru, Nobunaga's (male) squire. Ranmaru's loyalty to Nobunaga is legendary in Japanese history; when Nobunaga was besieged at Honnoji by Akechi Mitsuhide, his own underling, Nobunaga took his life and Ranmaru was his second (the person who assisted the suicide and carried it through if the event did not go well). Afterwards, Ranmaru took his own life after setting the temple on fire so Akechi's forces couldn't use Nobunaga's corpse as a trophy.andyreal wrote: Nobunaga Mistress
Mori Ranmaru is depicted a woman in many media because he was a young man, probably in his early teens, and because it's quite likely that he and Nobunaga were engaged in shudo, a form of ritualized homosexuality which many samurai partook of; I made comments in a recent thread that Oren and Jounouchi are in this same kind of relationship sans the buttsex, because it was also a mentorship to teach the younger man how to be a proper samurai.
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Huh. You learn something new everyday.
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Lol. You forgot Ryuki vs Blade : Who is using card stylishly.kyoichikiller90 wrote:Bujin battles I figured the reasons of their fighting.
Kuuga vs Kabuto : Who is the mighty red beetles Kuwagata or Kabuto?
Agito vs Den-O : Who will obtain Akiyama Rina? As Mana or Naomi.
Kiva vs Fourze : Who will use the moon theme?
W Extreme just so lame againts Bujin Gaim.
I wonder Is it hard to get Sota Fukushi voicing Fourze. Why they able to get Nago, Terui, Kengo, Date, and Akiko if they not able to get main Riders back to reprise their roles?
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I can't get enough of this scene
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It probably depends on if they want to do it and if they have time to do it or not. Again I feel like Toei should stop going the nostalgia route with their movies every year and actually develop a good story that doesn't need a cheap gimmick.andyreal wrote:I wonder Is it hard to get Sota Fukushi voicing Fourze. Why they able to get Nago, Terui, Kengo, Date, and Akiko if they not able to get main Riders back to reprise their roles?