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This episode was messy for me, in more ways than one. It seems like every episode goes out of its way to prove that no matter what Haruka believes, he'll ultimately be proven wrong. I mean, it's a problematic world, only because everyone forgets in every episode that Amazons will eventually turn into monsters that eat people. Even if Haruka believes in Sawai Miyuu or Misaki in Mamoru, there's a time limit that will end in tragedy.

Speaking of which, why did they bring Sawai Miyuu back? It's always cool to see a cameo, but they treat it like he's Haruka's Amazon waifu, so it's this big tragedy when he has to kill her in the end. But it's not, since we barely even know the character. Plus, Haruka's a dumbass for saving them. Since they're clearly still killing people and eating them. And that's on top of the people they killed and ate already in the restaurant. What exactly is his criteria for what's an Amazon that needs to be saved and what isn't?

It's alright to write a main character whose not sure about what his main beliefs are, as long as the events in the story help shape something in him eventually. But Haruka just doesn't seem to know or learn anything from his experiences. So as good as the writing is, in that regard he's a frustrating character to watch. Since he's just a dumbass, plain and simple. He's naive and idealistic, but he has no idea how the world works. Maybe this will pay off in the next "last episode".

I knew it, Mamoru is still blue, he's just got a taste for humans now. This is another problematic point. What does it mean? If Mamoru were human, he'd just be no different from a cannibal? If I were to eat human meat, would I rip off my friend's arm and chow down if I had the chance? It sets up a tragic scenario, but what exactly is the ultimate point of it? I guess since it's not red, that means Mamoru can be "saved". But will his team ever be able to trust him again?

Jin's just acting like a madman at the end. I just feel so sorry for Nanaha, since she's obviously in love with a man who's got priorities that aren't her.

So yeah, tragedy all around. Will this get wrapped up in the "last episode"? I like how it's just titled M, the code name that they've been using for Mamoru this whole time. Clever girl.

I can't tell if I think this is a 3 or a 4 star episode. It definitely sets up cool things, but I feel like none of it pays off in this one. I guess I just don't know how to feel or react to what's going on, which probably means it was a 3 for me.
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I like the kills in the episode, but the execution of the dramatic parts, zod I need alcohol. Haruka better realize that he can't save everyone and he can't expect the Amazons to stay "human" forever.

Old Yeller is put down, not spared. As much as it pains me, Mamoru has to die. Him still being with the Exterminators is baffling.
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Oh yeah, got to love the Of Mice and Men moment that nearly happened. "Oh no, it's blue. Abort, man. Abort!"

It's a pity they cheaped out on the suits. I guess the mass awakening was supposed to be drones for Sawai Miyuu's queen bee/hornet awakening. But they're clearly soldier ant drone costumes.
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The president licked his tongue, and Chief Mizisawa is freaking scared of him. I dare to think what this means.
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takenoko wrote:It's alright to write a main character whose not sure about what his main beliefs are, as long as the events in the story help shape something in him eventually. But Haruka just doesn't seem to know or learn anything from his experiences. So as good as the writing is, in that regard he's a frustrating character to watch. Since he's just a dumbass, plain and simple. He's naive and idealistic, but he has no idea how the world works. Maybe this will pay off in the next "last episode".
*coughRyuukicough*

I'm pretty sure the president is an Amazon... Not to mention, this whole Third Chil... erm, Third Amazon thing has been bugging me. I mean, you would think Shinj... umm, Haruka would have a much higher number or perhps lower. Something tells me Jin and Mamoru aren't #1 and 2.

All in all, though, I think the massive reality checks all around were long overdue. Keep in mind, the chef was blue, as were all the restaurant patrons. Thus, meat addiction has no effect on the armlet. I wonder if Mamoru will fully awaken next ep. Also, could this golden armlet be the parallel for the Gaga armlet? If so, will it have an effect beyond simple suppressors? I get the sneaky feeling the armlet actually contains an "upgrade" version of the Amazon cells meant to make Haruka immune to Tlaloc.


One last silent hope the original Amazon makes an appearance (even cameo will do) in the final ep...
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I think that the armlets turn from blue to red when they're out of medicine. I think that they dispense medicine as necessary to hold the Amazon cells in check. In this case, his cells hadn't actually taken over but his instincts did.

Speaking of the third Amazon reference, I don't think the numbering goes the way you guys are assuming. Jin turned himself into an Amazon after the 4000 test subjects escaped in order to hunt them down. Possibly the first was the original series reference, and the second would have been the prototype used for the 4000. So the third would really be the third-generation, and since Jin said he is the same type as Haruka, then I think that his Amazon cells actually came from Haruka.
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This episode was great for me. Looks like my prediction was right for the final showdown between Haruka and Jin. But what of the president? I think he had the amazon cells commissioned in order to either expand his life span or achieve immortality. I wonder what the second season will bring?
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I think this episode is good because it illustrates what Jin tries to explain to Haruka in the bird man episode. Jin is clear that all Amazons, himself included, must die. Haruka hesitates to kill Amazons who are trying to live in quiet - what's problematic to the humans is that he's fine with a man-eating species surviving, as long as they try not to as much as they can. But if these Amazons go after his sister he won't mind killing them. So as Jin says, Haruka is the more selfish person than Jin and his mother who conveniently want to slaughter their living creations, because according to his rules, he decides who gets hunted and who doesn't, as per his preferences. In a sense he's a less intelligent, but more successful version of, Mitsuzane from Gaim, to whom, the ultimate goal is to be able to allow and deny, give and take, as he wishes. Haruka is just as dangerous like Mitsuzane. That's Jin's point. Haruka initially wanted Amazons with moral compasses, but when that;s impossible his own ideals kick in. Jin has problems with that, and so will even save a murderer from an Amazon.

I didn't agree back then, but this epodes cleared things up.
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Very good and very bad episode at the same time. It is really dark and when I finish watching, I feel uneasy. All the time I feel tension about Mamoru stuff. It's really... scary! From the very beginning I don't like Mamoru character. He is an idiot and monster who eat people! Weak and dangerous fellow. Let's get to the point: If extermination team exterminate every amazons expect mamoru and haruka (maybe?) what's fate will has Mamoru? They lock him somewhere, feed him with hamburgers and treat him like test subject (again!). "Golden cage" or even worst. I wonder what if amazons win against human? They'll eat everything what is to eat... and what's next? They all die from starving or eat each other but all options lead to dramatic end - All of them - DIE. Race without future.

Haruka is really stupied. It was obvious that "Sawai Miyuu" and others will eventually eat people... again. They eat human meat in restaurant or just attack someone... what's the difference? Uhh. And Jin. In the beginning he was somewhat like Tendou Souji. Tendou was a bit asshole, but in the end he was always right about his actions and decision. Jin is different. I really can't keep up with this character from the episode with junkyard. Amazon murderer, Human murderer... again: what's the difference. I'm confused. Maybe I'm too stupied or just motivations of main characters ar somewhat messy.

And in the end we have got interesting preview. Mamoru is with the team? Kazuya... your arm is in the place again? It's artificial arm or what the hell? He recover pretty fast. He will fight with one functioning arm? Crazy guy.
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Takenoko hit all of the major points I was going to touch on after watching this episode. Haruka's naivety is getting to be painful - he knows these test subjects are eating humans. Meanwhile the armbands get even more confusing, since they obviously aren't a good indicator of when a test subject has a hankering for a piece of Hank.

Meanwhile I knew this episode would be a downer after last week's, but just how brutal it was surprised even me. Mamoru turning cannibal was telegraphed a mile away, but I didn't think we'd see him snacking on a member of the extermination squad. :o This episode really should have been titled "Let's Kill Everyone." But on the plus side, it's nice to see that Jin isn't just a fighter and can pull off a legitimately good threat.

Otherwise this was a decent episode, but the pacing was just a bit off. If they had tightened it up by a minute or two and cut down the dwelling, I think it would have moved better.
takenoko wrote:Jin's just acting like a madman at the end. I just feel so sorry for Nanaha, since she's obviously in love with a man who's got priorities that aren't her. .
Though even when they're fighting, Jin and Nanaha are the cutest thing on this show. Assuming Jin doesn't make it to season 2, I hope she does.

On the other hand, what is the point of Mizuki again? We're 12 episodes in and she still seems more like a plot device. :(
Yaiba wrote:The president licked his tongue, and Chief Mizisawa is freaking scared of him. I dare to think what this means.
Three words: eww, old people. :shock:

Finally, three random oberservations.

1) I miss people yelling "Henshin" and making exaggerated arm movements. "Amazon" just isn't the same
2) So now the extermination squad isn't sleeping in the common area? I feel like consistency got thrown out to setup that scene between Mamoru and Haruka.
3) The President's facial expression when calling out the Chief's name cracked me up. I'm not sure if that was supposed to be that funny or not.

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Oh, and a quick error. 21:42: "Let me eat he!" Amazons may have poor taste in food, but they are at least grammatically correct. :P
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Ah, someone just pmed that to me. I'll pump out a quick v2. Thanks!
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So this episode kind of highlights to me how Haruka as a character hasn't really been developed well so far, with all his flip flopping. I mean, I get that he probably identifies as being an Amazon but this shit is annoying. I know they still have the second season and we might not be done with it, but what I thought was going well early on has kind of stagnated.

Of course, as I thought, Fukuda didn't really say anything and that ended up costing Misaki his arm.

And love Jin. Him fighting was great this episode. He's been horribly underutilized in this department.
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Catastrophe wrote:Of course, as I thought, Fukuda didn't really say anything and that ended up costing Misaki his arm.
Eh? Fukuda straight out tells Misaki to watch out for Mamoru.
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takenoko wrote:
Catastrophe wrote:Of course, as I thought, Fukuda didn't really say anything and that ended up costing Misaki his arm.
Eh? Fukuda straight out tells Misaki to watch out for Mamoru.
True, but all he had was a suspicion, and didn't voice that very well... "He's an Amazon" should've been something a little more like "I'm worried he's at risk of awakening, so please watch for any odd behaviour". Misaki instead went in prepared with only a hamburger.
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Ashki wrote:
takenoko wrote:
Eh? Fukuda straight out tells Misaki to watch out for Mamoru.
True, but all he had was a suspicion, and didn't voice that very well... "He's an Amazon" should've been something a little more like "I'm worried he's at risk of awakening, so please watch for any odd behaviour". Misaki instead went in prepared with only a hamburger.
Mamoru is the most trustful one, so if Fukuda tells any one from the team that Mamoru wants to eat people, they will not believe him, also Fukuda couldn't know about what happened in the restaurant so his suspicions don't have fundaments.
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